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07-16-2012, 11:27 AM
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Brazed-on hose fitting .... really?!
Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing ... no hole in the tubing that it was brazed to?
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07-16-2012, 12:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David_Nelson
Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing ... no hole in the tubing that it was brazed to?
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Yep. Flow was poor 
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07-16-2012, 02:20 PM
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Dan's car part:
The hole wasn't drilled after brazing.
But you know, garbage disposals come that way on purpose -- you are supposed to punch out the center plug during installation if you are going to hook up a dish washer drain. Really funny how often do-it-yourselfers miss that and have an interesting experience the first time they run the dishwasher.
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07-16-2012, 03:19 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Warrenty
You may find Supperiors warrenty document SWP001 helpful. Pay close attension to the part titled Reciprocating Engines
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As I hurdled through space, one thought kept crossing my mind - every part of this rocket was supplied by the lowest bidder.
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07-16-2012, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Delta, CO/Atlin, BC
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I was quite happy with my Superior IO360 until the rocker bosses broke on the #2 cylinder at 337 hours and Superior was out of business.... the cause of the failure was never really determined, though I did have a slightly bent pushrod, so the presumption has been that the valve stuck. I'm still not unhappy with the engine, but I ended up with an ECI cylinder (Superior was out of business) and the engine has not really run quite the same since the cylinder failure.
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...ghlight=rocker
YMMV
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07-16-2012, 07:28 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: fort myers fl
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scsmith
The hole wasn't drilled after brazing.
But you know, garbage disposals come that way on purpose -- you are supposed to punch out the center plug during installation if you are going to hook up a dish washer drain. Really funny how often do-it-yourselfers miss that and have an interesting experience the first time they run the dishwasher.
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DIY'er? when I had my kitchen redone the contractor forgot to punch it out. I make sure he hears about it ever chance I can.
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07-17-2012, 05:40 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Tampa (BKV)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airguy
What is the going rate for the ECI kit now?
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All in, about 22.5k for superior kit, ECI cylinders, and all accessories. 19.5k wihout accessories for ECI. When I spoke to the assemblers they quoted in the 28-30k range for completed and tested engine. When I said I wanted to participate in the assembly, they either said absolutely not or I could watch without touching a tool. When asked how long the assembly would take they said about a day which is what my A&P said as well. So, 8k+ for a single day of assembly. Seemed a bit high to me.
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Last edited by ColoRv : 07-17-2012 at 05:43 AM.
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07-17-2012, 06:04 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chesterfield, Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoRv
All in, about 22.5k for superior kit, ECI cylinders, and all accessories. 19.5k wihout accessories for ECI. When I spoke to the assemblers they quoted in the 28-30k range for completed and tested engine. When I said I wanted to participate in the assembly, they either said absolutely not or I could watch without touching a tool. When asked how long the assembly would take they said about a day which is what my A&P said as well. So, 8k+ for a single day of assembly. Seemed a bit high to me.
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It takes Barrett a lot more than a day to balance all the parts, assemble an engine, mount it to the dyno and run it for about an hour. Eight grand may seem a lot but there is also a lot of equipment involved to do the job right plus people like Rhonda at the front desk who need to earn a living and a building to maintain.
You get what you pay for in this business. Their is plenty of competition.
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07-17-2012, 07:16 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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I will be placing my order with Barrett next week. I have talked to a lot of people and everyone that has dealt with Barrett has been very happy with the quality of the build and the performance
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04-28-2014, 04:09 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Greeley CO
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Oil Squirters
I have a Superior XP IO360 which I built up in 2006 from their kit on an RV-8. I have the 8.5-1 cylinders and according to the assembly instructions, they said the oil squirters were not required so I installed the plugs where they would be. Long story but am doing an overhaul and trying to decide what would happen if I install the squirters now. What would be the advantage if I did? I have heard it will cause the engine to run hotter. I have a Pacific Air 9 row oil cooler and the oil temps would run a little high during the summer 210-230 depending on how hard I am working the engine during formation and air show work. 190-200 during most low altitude maneuvering. I fly out of Colorado and in climbs in summer the cylinder temps will approach 450 on 2 & 4 but cool off as soon as I increase the A/S or power reduced. Just looking for some comments or experience anyone has had with and without the squirters installed. Thanks 
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