VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics

  #1  
Old 07-05-2012, 09:08 PM
rv8gibbo rv8gibbo is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maitland, Australia
Posts: 91
Red face Dimpling Nutplates

I worked out a cheap & easy way to dimple Nutplates today without buying or grinding down the edge of dimples. Simply take a piece of 1/4 steel about for inches square, drill a #40 hole close to the edge (so the countersink for the screw clears the edge) then machine countersink the hole so an AN426AD3 rivet sits just below the surface. Now simply use plate as female side of die. I used mine the the bottom on the DRT2 and it worked great, also I straightened the Nutplate out due to distortion of the dies by leaving the weight down on the handle and slightly stretching them down.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-06-2012, 01:27 PM
Cipher Cipher is offline
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Longview WA
Posts: 22
Default Dinpling Nuplates

Thanks for the great idea. I never thought of that. I'll be sure and try it out tonight. Seems like it's almost too easy!

Quote:
Originally Posted by rv8gibbo View Post
I worked out a cheap & easy way to dimple Nutplates today without buying or grinding down the edge of dimples. Simply take a piece of 1/4 steel about for inches square, drill a #40 hole close to the edge (so the countersink for the screw clears the edge) then machine countersink the hole so an AN426AD3 rivet sits just below the surface. Now simply use plate as female side of die. I used mine the the bottom on the DRT2 and it worked great, also I straightened the Nutplate out due to distortion of the dies by leaving the weight down on the handle and slightly stretching them down.
__________________
George Ford
RV-4 N83SB Flying 0320 160hp CS
RV-8 N848MC Flying IFR IO360 CS
RV-8 QB Fuselage in progress.
APRS KA7PHJ-11
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-07-2012, 03:38 PM
Pmerems's Avatar
Pmerems Pmerems is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 818
Default At your own risk

Gents,

The DRDT-2 is fine tool but it was designed to dimple aluminum and not steel nutplates. The loads imposed dimpling nutplates may damage the DRDT-2 clamp.

When I dimple nutplates I use my hand squeeze which is designed to handle the higher loads.

If you own a DRDT-2 and are considering dimpling nutplates I would highly recommend against it.

Build on......................
__________________
Dream it, Build it, Fly it

Paul Merems (EAA Tech Counselor, EAA Sheetmetal Workshop Instructor/Volunteer 12 yrs)
ExperimentalAero-HANGAR BANNERS
www.experimentalaero.com
RV-7A (Flying since 2010)/RV-4 (sold 1990)
Tucson, Arizona 85749
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-07-2012, 05:47 PM
BobTurner BobTurner is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 6,767
Default

Now you tell me! I dimpled a lot of nutplates using a steel adaptor plate similar to described above. As far as I can tell my DRDT-2 is still working okay.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-07-2012, 05:52 PM
rivetshaver rivetshaver is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Peachtree City Ga
Posts: 56
Default

My 9A is 90% done,did not dimple a single nut plate, used NAS 1097 rivets, makes it a lot easier.
__________________
Gregory Targonski
Peachtree City GA
RV-9A Flying as of September 12, 2013
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-07-2012, 06:19 PM
9GT's Avatar
9GT 9GT is online now
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Southern Michigan
Posts: 1,964
Default

The leverage arm on my DRDT-2 broke at the top of and under where the press fit black oxide pivot pin went through. I believe the reason was from the added pressure required to dimple the nut plates. I had to re-weld mine at that point and I reinforced that area with some extra passes of welding rod filler. I ground a side off of the male and female dies and also needed that set for dimpling some of the tight spots in the airframe.
__________________
David C.
Howell, MI
RV-10: #41686 Under Construction
RV-9A: #90949 Under Construction
RV-10: #40637 Completed/Sold 2016
Cozy MKIV:#656 Completed/Sold 2007
"Donor Exempt" but donated through Dec. 2020

Last edited by 9GT : 07-07-2012 at 06:22 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-08-2012, 05:56 AM
rv8gibbo rv8gibbo is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maitland, Australia
Posts: 91
Default

Ok maybe that's not such a good idea. What about pneumatic squeezers will they be ok to load up????
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-08-2012, 06:43 AM
Joe Joe is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Independence, OR
Posts: 396
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rivetshaver View Post
... used NAS 1097 rivets, makes it a lot easier...
Good advice. It's a well-known secret that Van's carries NAS1097 rivets in
three AD3 sizes now as well as the AD4's they tout as "oops" rivets.

Search at the Van's Aircraft webstore (be sure to check "The List") for NAS1097.

--
Joe
__________________

Joe Dubner
RV-8A
Independence, OR
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-08-2012, 07:09 AM
jimgreen jimgreen is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Vancouver island, BC Canada
Posts: 385
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rivetshaver View Post
My 9A is 90% done,did not dimple a single nut plate, used NAS 1097 rivets, makes it a lot easier.
And much faster. Also easier in cases where it is difficult to dimple the sheet metal.
__________________
Jim Green
RV7 tip up
IO360 Whirlwind 200RV
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-08-2012, 11:35 AM
Sparky's Avatar
Sparky Sparky is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Perham, MN
Posts: 350
Default Avery 3/8" Diameter Dimple Die

I used a 3/8" diameter female dimple die from Avery Tools in my pneumatic squeezer. It works perfectly for dimpling nutplates:



They're on sale now at Avery Tools:

http://www.averytools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=14870
__________________
Paul Winkels
RV7 Standard Build - First flight 4/16/2016 - Now Flying!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:36 PM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.