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06-04-2012, 08:54 PM
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Insurance dual req
Recently got a quote from Chartis via Falcon for ins for my soon to be RV 7. Chartis is wanting 20 hrs dual in type. Does this seem high?...I was thinking it did, but wanted to check with others first before I sought out additional quotes.
I am low time, which is probably why. 120 tt, 7 tailwheel.
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06-04-2012, 09:11 PM
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I don't know but 20 hours dual tailwheel only puts you at 27 hours taildragger time. Better start getting the time.
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06-04-2012, 10:24 PM
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When I bought my 6 last year I had 3 hours of tail wheel time. The insurance requirement was for 10 hours dual. I had about 480 hours total at that time, with commercial and instrument ratings.
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06-04-2012, 10:56 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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5 Hrs
Chartis (through NationAir) is only requiring me to have 5 hrs dual total ( I already have 3.4). However, I have nearly 60 hours of tail wheel time - so maybe that is the difference?
(edit: Now that I think about it, I seem to recall having an original quote several years ago that specified 20 hours of dual - but I had little to no tail wheel time then).
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06-04-2012, 11:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miyu1975
Recently got a quote from Chartis via Falcon for ins for my soon to be RV 7. Chartis is wanting 20 hrs dual in type. Does this seem high?...I was thinking it did, but wanted to check with others first before I sought out additional quotes.
I am low time, which is probably why. 120 tt, 7 tailwheel.
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That's about what I was required to do. I was low tail wheel, with over 500 total hours then, SEL/MEL inst rating. Seemed excessive, but I needed it.
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06-04-2012, 11:45 PM
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I only had to do 5 hours dual, even though it was close to 25 years since I had flown a nose dragger.
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06-05-2012, 03:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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The time requirement depends on your experience. So requiring 20 hours of dual doesn't surprise me.
In my case they only wanted me to get three hours in any tailwheel RV. Dual wasn't required. Granted, that was five years ago and I had time in a bunch of different TW aircraft.
The time was flown off in the right seat of a trusting friend's RV-6.
There is a good reason the insurance rates for TW aircraft are what they are. It took me about 100 hours until I truly felt comfortable flying TW aircraft and about 100 hours in the RV until I felt like I really knew the aircraft.
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06-05-2012, 04:41 AM
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OK..so based on what I am hearing my 20 hr req isn't excessive...and will only a low time pic like me..thanks
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06-05-2012, 06:16 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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My insurance company wants 10 hours make and model... I have 4600+ hours but only 6 in tail wheel.
My comment was that 20 landings would be much, much better than 10 hours. Usually, time in a particular aircraft allows the prospective pilot to gain knowledge of the handling and operating characteristic of the craft. I don't think operating experience and understanding the "systems" is needed in an airplane you build. I suppose it's possible to fly 10 hours and only get two or three take offs and landings in.
Many landings, though... that's another story.
Don
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06-05-2012, 06:34 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miyu1975
OK..so based on what I am hearing my 20 hr req isn't excessive...and will only a low time pic like me..thanks
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You will need all of that 20hrs to get mildly proficient in the airplane. I'm curious, are you planning to get your 20hrs in another airplane and do the initial test flight on your airplane or have an experienced RV pilot do the flight test? Don
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