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Old 05-29-2012, 12:18 AM
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Back to the original thread and in reply to our German friend Herman. Perhaps he is is not aware that several years ago the German car manufacturer Porche decided to get into the business of developing a replacement for the Lycoming engine .
Their engine which was a single leaver 200 power unit was installed in a specially developed Moony. In spite of the technical engineering excellence of Porche as well as their considerable finacial resources the whole thing turned into a fiasco. All the planes had to be reequiped with Lycoming or Continental powerplants.

Over the last 40 years or so vast summs of money have been invested in trying to build a better engine to replace either the Lycoming or Continental engine in the 150 HP or plus range and there has been little sucess. This is why Vans only recommends Lycoming engines for their aircraft.

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Old 05-31-2012, 12:27 PM
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Back to the original thread and in reply to our German friend Herman. Perhaps he is is not aware that several years ago the German car manufacturer Porche decided to get into the business of developing a replacement for the Lycoming engine .
Their engine which was a single leaver 200 power unit was installed in a specially developed Moony. In spite of the technical engineering excellence of Porche as well as their considerable finacial resources the whole thing turned into a fiasco. All the planes had to be reequiped with Lycoming or Continental powerplants.

Barry
I am painfully awarwe of that !
Mooney is not the only manucaturer who experienced this, but in fact a whole array of manufacturers over here were affected.
This brings us right back to my statement about protectionism.
Users of the engine loved it, but for PORSCHE the ac engine market was a comparatively small portion of their income and they were told that they had the choice between continuing to build ac engines OR selling cars in the US.

It sucks, but when you build cars....
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:26 PM
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...several years ago the German car manufacturer Porche decided to get into the business of developing a replacement for the Lycoming engine ...
My favorite article on the topic by Alfred Scott, the man behind the F8L Falco kit airplane: Dead on Arrival: Porsche PFM

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...It's often been said that Porsche has forgotten more about engine design than aviation engine manufacturers ever knew. Porsche mistook a compliment for the truth and never bothered to find out the few things that Lycoming and Continental did know...
Thanks, Bob K.
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