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05-21-2012, 03:19 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Hobe Sound, Florida
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Be careful and think of the depth of the map box an interference to the sub-panel structure. Don't ask me how I know.
Phelps
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05-21-2012, 05:01 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Dear Peter, since you are looking at the SL-40 and the GMA240, had you considered the PAR100EX? About the same price, you save panel space, get Bluetooth interconnectivity, and you get IntelliVox.
Mark Scheuer
PS Engineering, Inc.
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05-21-2012, 05:44 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Charlotte NC
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This is personal to me to a extent so take it for what its worth. I would ditch the tablet. I Have tried a windows machine, Ipad2 and Ipad3 in the cockpit. With the tablet hard mounted your not going to be able to see it part of the time. The only real way to view a tablet is leave it loose so you can twist it to get a usable viewing angle. My Ipad is mounted on the right side of the cockpit in a Ram mount. I keep it for the info it can provide but have had to take it out of the mount at times. If your wearing sun glasses forget about it! I would think about a 696 in that spot and sell the 495. 696's are really getting cheap.
George
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05-21-2012, 06:00 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
Posts: 7,496
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sailvi767
This is personal to me to a extent so take it for what its worth. I would ditch the tablet. I Have tried a windows machine, Ipad2 and Ipad3 in the cockpit. With the tablet hard mounted your not going to be able to see it part of the time. The only real way to view a tablet is leave it loose so you can twist it to get a usable viewing angle. My Ipad is mounted on the right side of the cockpit in a Ram mount. I keep it for the info it can provide but have had to take it out of the mount at times. If your wearing sun glasses forget about it! I would think about a 696 in that spot and sell the 495. 696's are really getting cheap.
George
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I agree...Ditch the 495 and the tablet and put back in another more modern aviation portable GPS.
While tablets have there place for handheld flight planning, on the ground weather, backups for plates and charts, and entertainment, their use in the bubble canopy cockpit is limited by the poor sunlight readability of the screens. Panel mounting one makes it very difficult to read a significant part of the time.
I would also ditch the map box. I wish I had never wasted my time putting one in my existing panel.
Weather?
Traffic?
Do you really need that audio panel? Think hard about Mark's suggestion above.
Will you fit under the panel with that extension added to the bottom? Keep in mind that you WILL spend many hours upside down on your back up under there working. It is inevitable!
Are you thinking far enough ahead to the ADS-B out mandate?
Some people remote mount the EIS box to save panel space, you could do that and move the items over to get the EFIS more centered on the pilot. Or put it where the map box is.
Last edited by Brantel : 05-21-2012 at 06:09 AM.
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05-21-2012, 06:49 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NJ
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Looking good Peter! Sounds as though you have given it a lot of thought and might have to give it a bit MORE thought.  .
I suspect that is why you posted as well. Some good suggestions have already been given but I would second what Brantel said....plan to work upside down underneath that panel for repairs and or replacement. I'm just a buyer and I have to do my own repairs and such under the panel. There is no way the local avionics tech is going to crawl under there and decipher my problems, especially since he is aging and not physically capable of doing so. Try to plan accordingly. None of us are getting any younger. 
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05-21-2012, 07:16 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Crestwood, KY
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Give the vertical power products some thought for your electrical buss seeing how the GRT Horizon would be able to display the status of your electrical system. I started off with fuses first and then switced over - could have saved some dollars. You guys make me have panel envy.
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05-21-2012, 07:34 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Posts: 52
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Originally Posted by Jim P
In stead of mounting the tablet in the panel, why not move the GRT to center on the pilot center line, then use a RAM mount to mount the tablet somewhere? That give you the flexibility to upgrade and change the tablet as the hardware and your desires change.
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+1
Tablet dimensions have a nasty habit of changing...the replacement only needs to be 0.5" wider and it will interfere with other items on the panel. Personally I'd just get a knee board for the tablet.
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05-21-2012, 08:44 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 1,007
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Chuck the tablet, obsolete yesterday, terrible view-ability in an RV. In it's place position the D-10A and the 495 where you look directly at them. That's plenty of backup, and you don't want to be twisting your head sideways when the chips are down; it's a vertigo thing. Try to keep all your functions in the panel without dangling additions. You're knees will thank you. Keep the map box. I make mine 2" higher than standard and position where you put yours. I put a second standard sized one in the upper baggage bulkhead. Storage for small stuff is good (check trends in cars).
John Siebold
Last edited by RV7ator : 05-21-2012 at 08:49 AM.
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05-21-2012, 09:38 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Edinburg, TX
Posts: 617
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You must be reading my mind. This was a similar layout I came up with after they announced the HXr. I need an IFR layout with redundancy so I was planning to put the D10A and ILS indicator where you have the tablet. In the radio stack I was contemplating a SL 30 nav/com and GNC 300XL for GPS/ILS capability as well as dual com radios. In addition in the radio stack would go a GTX 327 transponder, a PM 6000M audio panel, and a Trio Pro Pilot auto pilot. The EIS would go in a similar location as yours and the tablet on a detachable mount on the co-pilot side as well so I can remove it and use it in hand, lap or on the mount for visibility. I was also anticipating having the HXr setup with its own GPS antenna as well. If I use a VPX sport powering all the systems just a few switches and annunciators would be needed above the HXr. Of course a battery backup would be included into the system. I do like your setup for a VFR machine with the exception of the fixed tablet. Add some GRT servos a GPS antenna to the HXr and you would have an excellent cross country VFR. How tall is the panel you have without the sub panel?
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05-21-2012, 01:31 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Corvallis Oregon
Posts: 3,547
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Gee..This thing has way more than I have in my IFR 7!
I think if I had one functionality that is really useful is TCAS (can't remember if you have that or not)
its pretty but remember you are primarilly looking out the window..
Frank
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