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Old 04-22-2012, 08:57 AM
Phlyan Pan Phlyan Pan is offline
 
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We had a guy in a 172 start his engine yesterday with the tow bar attached. The continental sucked the tow bar into the Prop taking a few inches off the end of each tip. Nobody was hurt however a vood lesson learned. Removing towbar will be on my checklist.
We have a rule, we never leave the towbar attached without holding on to it. If we have to walk away, the towbar gets removed and set aside. So far, it's prevented such an occurrence.
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:45 AM
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And do the same walk around even if you are only going to taxi from the fuel pumps to your hangar...

Friday evening I had to return a Myers fuel cap to it's owner. It was found on the ground by the fuel pump...

Sometimes it's tempting to skip the walk around if we are not actually going to go flying...
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Old 04-22-2012, 02:53 PM
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Default use hands and eyes

even tho i may get dirty, i like to run my hands down the trailing edge, or leading edges ( & underside). Then after I'm all done, I step back, 20 feet behind and 20 feet ahead, and just crouch down and admire my beautiful ship. Of course, I'm really looking for an aileron out of rig, or a rag hanging out of the cowl etc. something you just won't see when you're right on top of it.
IF something looks funny, it probably ain't right.
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Old 04-22-2012, 04:01 PM
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I had a 172 fly over me with his tow bar attached while I was down wind for 18 at Oshkosh I have a witness.
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Old 04-22-2012, 06:34 PM
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My instructor taught me always do A-B-C-D when about to get in the plane.

A= Aircraft (have you done a walk around).

B= Ballast (are you carying any extra ballast that may affect your normal C/G or take off distance)

C= Controls ( have you moved your controls full travel in all directions to make sure there are no unusual noises)

D = Dolly (have you removed the dolly)
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Old 04-22-2012, 08:43 PM
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On either my second or third flight after importing my RV-6, I took off with the pitot cover hanging. Realized that my climbout speed was indicating 30mph, and put two and two together pretty quick. Flew a circuit and landed using GPS for speed instead... No problems.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:05 PM
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On either my second or third flight after importing my RV-6, I took off with the pitot cover hanging. Realized that my climbout speed was indicating 30mph, and put two and two together pretty quick. Flew a circuit and landed using GPS for speed instead... No problems.
You'd be amazed how many student I've had that have said things like "gear up and locked," "Airspeed's alive," and my favorite "everything's green" on the take off roll when in fact none of those things were true.

Pull the nav light c/b on an M20J you kill the engine instruments, yet he reported everything up and in the green in the go then about had a panic attack after the gear came up.

Had a student fly across Florida dragging the gear in a Seminole, only realized her mistake after 1.5 and trying to drop the gear for the ILS, wondering the whole way across the state why the airplane was so slow.

More than one instance of "airspeeds alive" with student leaving the pitot cover on, in full view of them the ENTIRE taxi out! Followed by my "abort" call as soon as they say it.

And on, and on, and on. Habit patterns will save your life, but only if we pay more than just lip service to them!
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:18 PM
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Default Correct you are Axel!!

Oh Drat, I really hate telling this on myself. In late 2008, I took my RV-4 to McKee Aviation in San Marcos, TX to have my transponder checked. Upon completion of the inspection...I was somewhat distracted by a BEAUTIFUL brunette wondering around the shop, who was apparently taken with my -4.

We proceeded with buttoning up, I paid my bill, SWAGGERED back out to my trusty steed & mounted up (however, in retrospect, I probably looked like a harbor seal flopping into a Volkswagen). I taxied out and took off. I recall looking down and seeing her intensively watching my takeoff. With a smug grin on my face, I was certain she was thinking "Hey Tiger (I was MOST certain she was calling me Tiger) why don't you come back and take me to dinner!! Well, she had her hands shading her eyes watching the plane intently... What else was I supposed to think??? Oh man, the RV life is just too cool!!! Right??

When she was finally out of sight, I returned my attention to flying the plane. I did my rapid instrument scan & saw I had "0" airspeed!! It hit me like a ton of bricks!! She wasn't thinking TIGER anything ... She was thinking " THAT DUMB ******* DIDN'T REMOVE HIS PITOT COVER...."

...I still have that pitot cover. I flew today and thought about that... Axel is spot on folks. I hope my stupid story helps. It was a wakeup call to me.

Be careful!!
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:22 PM
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I did a pre flight this week and fortunately decided it was worth it to actually give a tug on the exhaust stacks. One was indeed loose. I am sure glad I found it before it fell off and I would have to replace hardware before flying again.
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:16 PM
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When she was finally out of sight, I returned my attention to flying the plane. I did my rapid instrument scan & saw I had "0" airspeed!! It hit me like a ton of bricks!! She wasn't thinking TIGER anything ... She was thinking " THAT DUMB ******* DIDN'T REMOVE HIS PITOT COVER...."

The above is well written and very funny because most of us can relate. Point is that we all are vulnerable to oversights. maintaining good habits will save our lives.
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