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04-02-2012, 07:13 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Watkinsville, GA
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HMM, I've been going since 1983, and I cannot disagree with any of the posts above, but Bruce has the right idea if you ask me.
HBC is the only reason I keep going. There are a lot of RVs and they are viewable during the airshow. The hosts are just impressive, and have become like family. Seeing friends that I only see once a year makes it fun.
Almost every year during the show, I get a military pilot that wants to see my RV-8. This year it was an F-18 guy, a couple of years ago it was a U2 pilot (had to fly in in a T-38). I just love the airplane discussions that go on in HBC. I was just a lowly CH47/AH1 pilot, so I get tickled when a U2 dude gets excited when I let them sit in Miss Sue!
I admit I was just there Fri-Sun, and I only made two short forays into the main area, and I did get run out by the folks prior to the airshow, but that is the story at Sun N Fun. Same thing happened 20 years ago.
Yes, it is a lot more commercial, and in many cases inconvenient, but be sure what you go for, and don't expect a lot of changes due to common sense.
I just wish I had gotten there in time to see more of the RV-1, Paul and Louise, but I did get an iPhone shot of Paul taxiing out.
Oshkosh seems a lot better in many ways, but their HBC area does not have SHADE!, just an amazing amount of RVs and all the others to boot. Also it is an EAA event. Both fun events if you van get your expectation aligned with what is there.
Paul's comment on safety got my attention, as something weird happens to me every year in the entry pattern, so I highly recommend that you remember that you are the PIC and don't assume the other planes have, and actually read that notam. This year the ground controllers seemed to catch everything, but the planes I was following never turned toward the airport. Like I say a little different every time. Last year going into OSH, the guy two planes in front (flying at 80kts) never did figure out FISK, so it happens.
Airplane, friends, and a little flying--think positive, and stop at Cedar Key for lunch on the way home.
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RV-8 80749 slow build taildragger
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SOLD at 540 hours and 10 years of FUN
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04-02-2012, 02:47 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Dyer, TN
Posts: 73
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Are the aircraft judging results online anywhere? There were some nice planes there...
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04-02-2012, 07:44 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bay Pines, FL (based @ KCLW)
Posts: 1,955
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I've been going to SNF for the last 13 years. I thought this year was very well attended when comparing it to the last few years. Part of this was due to the beautiful weather the whole week, other than a passing shower on saturday.
Thursday was busy, but Friday was more crowded than I've seen recently.
New management is trying to do a better job of attracting homebuilts to fly in as they had a better fly-in package than in previous years.
I agree with others, regarding the restrictions into the Homebuilt Corner from 12:30-5:00. I like to attend the forums but always have to rush back to have access to my RV before they shut me out. Then, I'm boxed out.
When they reopen it, I'm outta there. It's 17 RV minutes flight back home.
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04-02-2012, 07:54 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 4,218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanLandry
New management is trying to do a better job of attracting homebuilts to fly in as they had a better fly-in package than in previous years.
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Dan, what did they do differently? I obviously overlooked it.
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Marietta, GA
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04-02-2012, 08:12 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 08A
Posts: 9,500
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One constructive suggestion, if anybody is listening....
Cancel the daytime Friday airshow. Just do the night show, which everybody loves. Leave the field open for arrivals all day Friday.
Here's why.....lots of us work all week. We can sneak away early on Friday, but right now it is a mess to get in on Friday evening during the 2 hour window between NOTAM closures. You get this great gaggle of airplanes circling Parker, then a big toilet flush arrival, then just a few minutes to tie down before you get run out of homebuilt parking.
The alternative is to fly in Saturday morning, but then you've already missed the best part of the day....not to mention a lot of social fun with friends on Friday night.
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04-02-2012, 08:42 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bay Pines, FL (based @ KCLW)
Posts: 1,955
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Boatright
Dan, what did they do differently? I obviously overlooked it.
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$30 entry
You still get the $5 discount, same as EAA or AOPA, & free fly-in hat & pin.
Extra this year, $2 discount on SNF shirt, free bottle water, & free soft drink or draft beer from the sunshine cafe. It amounts to about $10 of additional discounts on items we all usually purchase.
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Morphed RV7(formally 7A), N20DL, PnP Pilot
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04-03-2012, 03:50 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 370
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanLandry
$30 entry
You still get the $5 discount, same as EAA or AOPA, & free fly-in hat & pin.
Extra this year, $2 discount on SNF shirt, free bottle water, & free soft drink or draft beer from the sunshine cafe. It amounts to about $10 of additional discounts on items we all usually purchase.
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The first 200 flying in got a free hat also. Not really a big deal but at least it showed they gave a ****.
The airshow comments are spot on. It's endless. We got thrown out of warbirds before 11:30 and homebuilts usually closed at noon. The shows are a classic example of too much of a good thing. 3 hours of shows would be plenty instead of 5 or 6. Not only can't you fly in all those hours but you can't even look at the planes on the field.
The attendance bump was mainly due to heavy advertising in the Tampa and Orlando markets. Planes constantly flying make some sense for a general public type crowd but even they have very limited time on the flight line. SNF needs to prioritize the trade show aspect, not the airshow.
One other gripe..You can't tell the campers that it's quiet time after 10 pm and then have a SNF sponsored event with very loud music (dozens of drunken karaoke singers) in the middle of the campground till midnight.
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04-03-2012, 05:36 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Fort Lauderdale
Posts: 184
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Hello Jeff
I see you are close to us in pmp, so I thought i would say hello. If your interested, we are having a BBQ on the 21st April at our hanger at PMP, hanger #16 132/B and looking to get some RV's and any homebuild people their for a few hours. If you could RSPV if you can make it and any other guys you know ,let me know.
Thanks
Alan
building RV6A
PMP
aussieflyer654@gmail.com
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04-03-2012, 05:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 24
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Triple Tree Aerodrome...google it and take a look. Lots of airplanes and lots of RVs. Tons of pilots. Over 400 planes last year. Several thousand people and NO airshow. It is a Flyin. Great camping with modern clean facilities
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04-03-2012, 06:50 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bay Pines, FL (based @ KCLW)
Posts: 1,955
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TangoBravo
Triple Tree Aerodrome...google it and take a look. Lots of airplanes and lots of RVs. Tons of pilots. Over 400 planes last year. Several thousand people and NO airshow. It is a Flyin. Great camping with modern clean facilities
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I went to TripleTree last year & had a blast. My wife & I will be back.
We taxied thru the woods & camped out.
On Saturday, they took the women on a field trip to the local horse stables. It enabled me to view all the planes on the flight line.
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Danny "RoadRunner" Landry
Morphed RV7(formally 7A), N20DL, PnP Pilot
1190+ hours
2019 Donation Paid
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