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Old 03-27-2012, 02:37 PM
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Default Turbine in a -10

240 HP, 125 lbs. Going to put it in a -10. No comment on whether that's a good idea!

http://www.avweb.com/news/snf/SunNFu..._206386-1.html

Probably the turbo-prop version, but still.
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Old 03-27-2012, 03:15 PM
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Default turbine claims

Also claims 240 kts. Guess they haven't seen the forum topic on VNE yet. LOL
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:35 PM
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I wonder what it's fuel burn is at say 14000 feet and churning around 160-170HP.

Anyone know?
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:18 PM
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Default 230 -240 mph, not knots

I have seen info on this engine before. I don't know if it is a viable engine or not for the 10. Perhaps if you live in a large part of the world that does not have 100ll, it may be the only way to fly. Just because it doesn't fight your idea of a perfect engine, doesn't make it a bad idea.

If you are going to tear into it, at least use the correct information. I may not have heard it correctly in the video, but it sounded to me like he said 230-240 mph. That doesn't appear to be too far out of line with Vans specs.
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:04 PM
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It'll be interesting to see how they get the CG in the right place.

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Old 03-27-2012, 06:33 PM
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Default whatever

knots, mph whatever at 17000' still have a Vne problem in my opinion. Regardless maybe I didn't hear it right, but I also heard 18-24 GPH. Is that right? LOL. I guess if you can afford the turbine the price per hour doesn't matter much anyway.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:13 PM
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I met the guy last month. He is passionate about the project and it was mostly about fuel availability out of this country. Got to give him the credit for paving the way.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:12 PM
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knots, mph whatever at 17000' still have a Vne problem in my opinion. Regardless maybe I didn't hear it right, but I also heard 18-24 GPH. Is that right? LOL. I guess if you can afford the turbine the price per hour doesn't matter much anyway.
Not really, so long as you do not punch out 240HP at 17,000 feet, you need to actually FLY the aeroplane.

I have not used FL170 yet and I doubt I would but FL150-160 is not unheard of for us. We do get around 35LPH up there and a TAS around 160+ knots, depending on weight.



So if you keep your IAS under control, and hence TAS, it would be fine. The places where AVGAS is not easily found is growing, even here in Australia, however the problem we have is the distances you need to fly to find anything, could be a problem with Jet/Diesel as you will have less range so it remains to be seen.

If I said we paid about 60% of the AVGAS price for JetA1 and you burned 65% more for the same mission, price would be the same, range much less, but maybe maintenance would be better.

Depends on the initial cost too.

But if there is just NO 100LL well you are not in the price camp....Beggers and choosers they say.

7-8 years ago we looked at the -10 with the Innodyn but it never went anywhere, here is a small chance it could, and if it does, and its viable, maybe down the road it might get up.

I hope they are going to OSH so I can see it
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:20 PM
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Anything can be done, but if I had the money for a turbine I would just go buy a proven/certified design. To move cg back forward, move battery to firewall, add another 925 battery for ebus, move baggage area behind engine, move prop forward 24". If that is not enough add a huge alternator and electric motor and have a turbine hybrid.
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:33 PM
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Default love turbines

I do love turbines, I hope they succeed so the turbine prices can come down and make it more resasnable for the rest of us. I think turbines will be the wave of the future. And I suspect the jet fuel of the future will all be natural gas derived from US feedstock. I am hoping that jet fuel (and diesel) becomes have the cost of avgas. I think the Air Force will be leading the way, and we will all be following. So even if the turbine burns 50% more at half the cost, the extended maintance interval will make it more than worthwhile. I am curious if the Vne of the -10 can be increased ala Harmon rockets?

RV10inOz thanks for the screen shot. I am always impressed with the RV10. For 2500 hours and 1/4 the cost, I can be up there with my rich neighbors in their Bonanzas. What a great machine. Can't wait to start a RV10 (maybe an RV12 first to get my feet wet 8-)

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