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Old 03-16-2012, 02:50 PM
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Low 50's but add 10% to make repairs and first conditional. I missed the run out mags and it cost me big time for over haul. Look too at the guy who built it and find a nearby RV owner to help with your pre buy. Even with the fresh inspection you can get burned. The best is a pre buy by a independant A&P then negotiate the price. And don't buy one you are afraid to fly home. My buddy is the 4th builder of a 6A and the plane still in only 50% finished. I would pay more to buy from the original builder.
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:15 AM
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Which leads me to a very important criteria for me. The build quality.
I can repaint a plane (but don't want to). I can easily redo the panel (and did). And most engines will have years on them if properly maintained. But it is very difficult and expensive to rebuild a plane.
I missed this discussion the first time around. (I'm not really interested in -A model discussions.) When I went to buy my -6, I was looking at the lower end of the price range (then around 60k). What I found were mostly airframes that had major issues. I ended up buying a very solid airframe (done by a well-known builder), prop, and engine (with decent logs) with a paint job that easily came back to life, but a completely run out panel and interior. The engine was mid-time but it's proven to be an awesome one!

Since buying my plane, the prices have dropped and I've had friends buy planes in the 50s and even 40s. Those planes had significant issues that would have kept me away from purchasing them. Most -6s were built back in the days before pre-punched/quickbuilt kits and the VAF support system. Many are very rough builds. So, unless you have inspected the plane, learning the selling price of a -6 doesn't really tell you much about the value of another -6. As others have said, it's the price you can get.

It depends on your mission (local joyrides vs. long xc) and your aptitude/interest in re-building the plane, but, from what I've seen, any xc, IFR -6 that doesn't have major squawks is likely to cost in the 60k+ range....or should. You can find a -6/A with IFR capacity in the 50k range but, most likely, you'll be needing $20k in the next couple of years to replace that old radio, vacuum pump, and round-gauges. And, I'd make sure I had a pre-purchase inspection by an experience RV guy like Randy Richmond to find the hidden, more serious issues. If you really intend to get lots of flying out of the plane, be very thoughtful and cautious in selecting a bargain.
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:11 AM
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I spent about 6 months last year carefully watching the market and calling people once ads disappeared. First, many if not most of the high priced 70k+ aircraft are not sold, just taken off the market. Second, fancy paint jobs including pseudo warbirds and special fade jobs etc do not add to the value and often detract as they are usually only attractive to the owner and may increase maintenance cost/effort to keep nice looking (in the eye of the owner) going forward. There seems to be no premium for tail/nose wheel or slider/tip up.

A basic 150hp -6 with about 1,000 hours in good condition, no damage history, basic but nice paint, metal prop, day/night VFR, steam gauges, xpdr, encoder, a single nav/com and some sort of decent handheld gps is about $40k. Engine time adjustments are figured at overhaul cost/TBO. Add 4k for o-360, add 4k for c/s, add the high average used price for extra avionics. No such thing as sweat equity in these planes, otherwise the would all be 200k. Make usual adjustments for identified issues, extra nice paint/interior, personal taste and remember it is a used plane not a new one and nothing's perfect.

I can send you my pricing spreadsheet if you like. Pm me.

I think based on what u have listed it is probably worth less than the others have mentioned. Old avionics aren't worth much, the engine time is a 6,000 reduction (check don George's price list), if the prop is in good shape it could partially offset that. I would hazard a very loose guess at anywhere from 35-40 depending on the condition of the interior and exterior, engine etc.
I have been inundated with requests for this spreadsheet.

The data is now very old, and market conditions have likely changed.

It is here for one more week, please don't mail me requests for it afterwards.

Thanks

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12196944/RV-6.xlsx
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