VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Main > RV General Discussion/News
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #21  
Old 03-08-2012, 02:31 PM
vasrv7a vasrv7a is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 188
Default ipad magnetic smart cover

Can people who have the Ipad magnetic smart cover comment on if the cover causes any problems with their magnetic compass when used with the Ipad in the cockpit? When I get my new Ipad 4g I'd like to know if Apple's Ipad magnetic smart cover causes any problems in our RV cockpits...

Thanx.

Victor
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 03-08-2012, 02:40 PM
newamiga newamiga is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Barneveld, NY
Posts: 189
Default

I love flying with my iPad 2 and may get an iPad 3 and pass down the 2 to my wife. That said, in a bubble canopy I just can't use it as readily as my Garmin 796. On my last trip I used both but for different purposes. I would use the 796 in the air for moving map, and weather. I used the iPad for up to date charts and then on the ground at stops to look at routing options and to check email . In my opinion it comes down to using the tool best for the purpose.

Carl
__________________
Private Pilot
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 03-08-2012, 02:50 PM
Rhino889's Avatar
Rhino889 Rhino889 is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Jupiter FL.
Posts: 451
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vasrv7a View Post
Can people who have the Ipad magnetic smart cover comment on if the cover causes any problems with their magnetic compass when used with the Ipad in the cockpit? When I get my new Ipad 4g I'd like to know if Apple's Ipad magnetic smart cover causes any problems in our RV cockpits...

Thanx.

Victor
Cant comment on the cockpit compass...

When I watched the ipad2 launch video, I thought the magnetic cover was awesome and amazing. Couldn't wait to have that combination. I returned the cover in about 7 days. Love the Ipad, the cover just really didnt live up to my expectations.

Just my single opinion; Apple fan club is sharpening their spears

Regards,

Scott
__________________
VAF DUES 7/13, 12/13, 03/14
Founder/Director
www.Aircraftwraps.com
Replace paint with performance.

This is my personal account and does not reflect the official communications of Aircraftwraps.com. We have retained a username for such correspondence. I post about formation, eating, aerobatics and pilot stuff .
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 03-08-2012, 04:31 PM
bird's Avatar
bird bird is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: lake charles, La.
Posts: 699
Default ipad

I have not purchased any avionics/flight instr. yet for my day/night vfr -8 yet. I pretty much stay confused about it. I am waiting, just not sure for what....probably more money. If I could read an Ipad in my 8 I don't see why I could not just have that for nav, flight planning, weather. Then I would only have to worry about engine monitoring and basic six pack, but then the ipad can do the six pack thing to I guess. Still musing, still wondering what would be the most economical. I really like all the new glass, great companies, but expensive for me.

bird
__________________
Bird
rv8 entire airframe at airport now, painting done, intersection and gear upper and lower fairings done, maybe order engine around first of year or before the next rate increase.
"to fly is a privilege that I am so thankful to God for"
http://www.mykitlog.com/tcb328/
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 03-08-2012, 09:13 PM
Mike D's Avatar
Mike D Mike D is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 456
Default Sunlight readability

Being able to read the display in sunlight has more to do with screen brightness (nits) than the resolution. iPad 1 and 2 are 300nits. The iPad 3 is rumored to have 550nits. Not sure this will happen but this would make the iPad 3 more sunlight readable, but not as good as an EFIS which are around 1000nits.

There are some new technologies coming that will improve sunlight readability and they don't rely on the screen brightness.

Also if the display is optically bonded to the front glass, it becomes much more clear and does not have the double reflections (looks like haze) that an air bonded screen would have.

But all these things are bad for the average consumer because they are very expensive and/or battery hogs.

A iPad that had an optically bonded display with over 1000nits would be about half the price of an EFIS. The problem is that the sales volume would be low and drive the price up to the same as an EFIS.
__________________
Michael Delpier
RV6A -O-320, fixed pitch, GRT Sport, 496
RV-10 - working on finish kit
Houston
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 03-08-2012, 11:16 PM
scsmith scsmith is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Ashland, OR
Posts: 2,574
Default nits?

This is the kind of quantitative information I've been hoping for. I never heard of nits, except for lice egg sacks that chimps pick out of each other's hair But if it is true, an increase from 300 to 550 is fairly significant, might make a difference. How do we find out if the 'new iPad' has this or not?????

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike D View Post
Being able to read the display in sunlight has more to do with screen brightness (nits) than the resolution. iPad 1 and 2 are 300nits. The iPad 3 is rumored to have 550nits. Not sure this will happen but this would make the iPad 3 more sunlight readable, but not as good as an EFIS which are around 1000nits.

There are some new technologies coming that will improve sunlight readability and they don't rely on the screen brightness.

Also if the display is optically bonded to the front glass, it becomes much more clear and does not have the double reflections (looks like haze) that an air bonded screen would have.

But all these things are bad for the average consumer because they are very expensive and/or battery hogs.

A iPad that had an optically bonded display with over 1000nits would be about half the price of an EFIS. The problem is that the sales volume would be low and drive the price up to the same as an EFIS.
__________________
Steve Smith
Aeronautical Engineer
RV-8 N825RV
IO-360 A1A
WW 200RV
"The Magic Carpet"
Hobbs 625
LS6-15/18W sailplane SOLD
bought my old LS6-A back!!
VAF donation Jan 2020
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 03-08-2012, 11:34 PM
kbehrent's Avatar
kbehrent kbehrent is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Puget Sound Area, WA
Posts: 220
Default

I wouldn't jump so fast on the new iPad. I'm more concerned about the battery life than screen glare. AT&T and Verizon are having serious issues regarding battery usage on their 4g LTE radios. On top of that, you have a new HD screen which I have to assume consumes either the same or more power than the previous. If apple hasn't drastically increased battery power, don't expect your battery to last anywhere close to the older iPads if you have 4g turned on.
__________________
Kevin Behrent
TeenFlight Puyallup, President
www.teenflight.org
http://facebook.com/teenflightpuyallup

EAA Chapter #326
Puget Sound, WA
RV-9A
Aerosport (Superior XP) IO-320 C/S, Precision Eagle EMS
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 03-09-2012, 12:05 AM
scsmith scsmith is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Ashland, OR
Posts: 2,574
Default plug it in?

I can plug it in to the aircraft power, right?


Quote:
Originally Posted by kbehrent View Post
I wouldn't jump so fast on the new iPad. I'm more concerned about the battery life than screen glare. AT&T and Verizon are having serious issues regarding battery usage on their 4g LTE radios. On top of that, you have a new HD screen which I have to assume consumes either the same or more power than the previous. If apple hasn't drastically increased battery power, don't expect your battery to last anywhere close to the older iPads if you have 4g turned on.
__________________
Steve Smith
Aeronautical Engineer
RV-8 N825RV
IO-360 A1A
WW 200RV
"The Magic Carpet"
Hobbs 625
LS6-15/18W sailplane SOLD
bought my old LS6-A back!!
VAF donation Jan 2020
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 03-09-2012, 04:56 AM
pierre smith's Avatar
pierre smith pierre smith is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
Posts: 7,840
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by scsmith View Post
I can plug it in to the aircraft power, right?
Yep. my wife and I bought cigarette lighter power cords for our iPads and use them in the airplane often.

Best,
__________________
Pierre Smith
RV-10, 510 TT
RV6A (Sojourner) 180 HP, Catto 3 Bl (502Hrs), gone...and already missed
Air Tractor AT 502B PT 6-15 Sold
Air Tractor 402 PT-6-20 Sold
EAA Flight Advisor/CFI/Tech Counselor
Louisville, Ga

It's never skill or craftsmanship that completes airplanes, it's the will to do so,
Patrick Kenny, EAA 275132


Dues gladly paid!
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 03-09-2012, 05:18 AM
Rhino889's Avatar
Rhino889 Rhino889 is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Jupiter FL.
Posts: 451
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kbehrent View Post
I wouldn't jump so fast on the new iPad. I'm more concerned about the battery life than screen glare. AT&T and Verizon are having serious issues regarding battery usage on their 4g LTE radios. On top of that, you have a new HD screen which I have to assume consumes either the same or more power than the previous. If apple hasn't drastically increased battery power, don't expect your battery to last anywhere close to the older iPads if you have 4g turned on.
4G is not a battery issue. It's a software signal handling issue.

3G last longer because the 3G system is "built out". In the US most areas have 3G. When you have your 3G only device in a 3G signal area... its locked into its highest possible signal and not searching.

4G is still sparsely available. Normal operation currently is a 4G device operating within a 3G area. While its doing all the functions and data load in the 3G, in the back ground it is constantly searching for a higher signal (4G). That searching drains and destroys the available battery.

Change this to a 3G device sitting in the mountains on the old 28K system... that 3G device will be constantly searching for the highest signal capable (3G) and the battery life will mimic the 4G device.

Give it a week and the software gurus will have an "app for that". Locking out the 4G signal search. Only when you know your in a 4G signal do you, the operator select the 4G capability.


To all: anyone have the NITS count on the ipad 2?
__________________
VAF DUES 7/13, 12/13, 03/14
Founder/Director
www.Aircraftwraps.com
Replace paint with performance.

This is my personal account and does not reflect the official communications of Aircraftwraps.com. We have retained a username for such correspondence. I post about formation, eating, aerobatics and pilot stuff .
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:37 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.