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03-02-2012, 01:48 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Triangle Area, NC
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Tips
The tips are available from ACS and others. The manual gun works well too and is cheaper.
Terry
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Originally Posted by DonFromTX
I am about to hit the "buy it now" button for one of these, but not sure just how it works. Looks like you would spend hours cleaning it up when you are finished. Do you buy the tips separate? Tell me more on how it is used.!
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03-02-2012, 02:55 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Greeley, Colorado
Posts: 199
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Cake Method
I tried the plastic bag method after reading about it but I couldn't get it to work. Wouldn't mix well in the bag and then couldn't get it out of the bag evenly. And applying it inside the tank with a mirror required one more hand than I had. I tried mixing in a cup and then loading a syringe but that was a mess and then it wouldn't come out. Both these ways might have worked if I had taking up the temp. I would have liked that gun but I'm too cheap and I was already spending over $1200.00 plus $700, on a hanger and insurance for a plane I couldn't fly, to fix the gas gauges and remove the Slosh.
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03-02-2012, 03:21 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In New Braunfels, ist das Leben schön!
Posts: 871
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DonFromTX
I am about to hit the "buy it now" button for one of these, but not sure just how it works. Looks like you would spend hours cleaning it up when you are finished. Do you buy the tips separate? Tell me more on how it is used.!
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Cleanup is easy. Just let it dry overnight in the tubes and tips (but remove the plunger) and it peels off easily. Takes about 1 minute for cleanup including an MEK wipedown. Only ended up using the tip that's 2 1/2 inches with 1/8 opening. The tubes come in several sizes and I found the 6 inch to be the best for me. Enough volume to work until I was tired of it but not too big to get in the way. Be sure and get one with the air hose included as it is smaller than standard size and might be hard to find. Using it is super easy and the only tip you'll need is to turn the air pressure down to around 40 or so.
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03-02-2012, 05:48 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pocahontas MS
Posts: 3,884
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Originally Posted by Cadstat
I tried the plastic bag method after reading about it but I couldn't get it to work. Wouldn't mix well in the bag and then couldn't get it out of the bag evenly. And applying it inside the tank with a mirror required one more hand than I had. I tried mixing in a cup and then loading a syringe but that was a mess and then it wouldn't come out. Both these ways might have worked if I had taking up the temp. I would have liked that gun but I'm too cheap and I was already spending over $1200.00 plus $700, on a hanger and insurance for a plane I couldn't fly, to fix the gas gauges and remove the Slosh.
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Hmmm, with all the trouble you had making it flow, it makes me wonder if the stuff you were sold was the wrong consistency. I built 4 tanks with the Flamemaster brand stuff that Van sells in a quart size can, & it worked great for me. (I feel for you, having to dig into a finished tank.)
Charlie
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03-02-2012, 09:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mount Vernon, IN
Posts: 1,270
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Here's what I prefer:
1) carefully weigh the 2 parts into an appropriate container. Use an accurate scale, preferably one that weighs in grams. I use an old Corelle cup to mix in because it's easy to hold and relatively easy to clean out
2) after mixing, I put the ProSeal into a SMALL plastic baggie, clip a 1/4" hole in a corner.
3) spread a bead of ProSeal as required.
4) using a cheap acid brush with the bristles trimmed to about 3/16", work the bead into a smooth layer. Apply a layer to both surfaces to be joined.
5) Assemble the parts and begin riveting. Use the brush to make sure that there is Proseal worked around the bucktails of the set rivets.
6) when done riveting, beautify the ProSeal one last time and then wipe off all ProSeal on the exterior of the tanks using laquer thinner, acetone, etc.
7) and finally, clean up the clecoes by tossing them into some lacquer thinner after wiping the gross amounts off, clean out the cup, and toss everything else.
I prefer to have a fillet of Proseal along the ribs, on both side of the flange, and over all the bucktails. It's not that hard to do a nice job using the acid brush. Nor, does it take very much ProSeal to do a nice job. Certainly, one can is more than enough to do a set of tanks, with plenty left for other uses.
I've yet to have a tank leak.
If you're using ProSeal to seal the canopy plexiglass to the frame, use masking tape to make a nice mask to keep the goo at bay. The apply the Proseal. Use the acid brush as needed. After the plexi is clecoed in place, you can pull the tapes , hopefully leaving a nice, self leveling bead of ProSeal right where you want it. Don't use any solvents on the plexi!
It couldn't be easier.
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03-03-2012, 07:26 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Evans, GA
Posts: 208
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Disposable Cartridges
This worked good for me.

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Evans, Georgia
RV-7 N92LT - Based at Thomson-Mcduffie airport HQU
TMXIO-360, Dynon Skview
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03-03-2012, 07:29 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Evans, GA
Posts: 208
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I guess this would help
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Evans, Georgia
RV-7 N92LT - Based at Thomson-Mcduffie airport HQU
TMXIO-360, Dynon Skview
Flying since June, 2012
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03-04-2012, 07:07 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: lake charles, La.
Posts: 699
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what ever you do read this
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rv8 entire airframe at airport now, painting done, intersection and gear upper and lower fairings done, maybe order engine around first of year or before the next rate increase.
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