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02-26-2012, 02:46 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Control Surface Bonding
We have just finished an RV-10 empennage kit and I realized that there seems to be no provision to Bond those control surfaces to the tailcone. I am used to seeing a small braided copper cable from the control surface to the fuselage. I believe that this is to avoid the buildup of a small electrical potential across the rod end (hinge) which would lead to rapid corrosion. Is this something that is addressed in a subsequent kit?
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02-26-2012, 03:56 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Secluded Lake,Alaska (AK49)
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Bonding
Bonding can help with corrosion, it also serves to minimize radio interference and keep the hinges from welding tight in the event of a lightning strike.There really isn't anything I can think of to keep you from installing bonding straps if you want them.
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02-26-2012, 04:13 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Big Sandy, WY
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Most typically you don't see bonding wires unless you also have static dischargers to help dissipate the P-static buildup. Or the legendary clear air static buildup. I don't know a reason you can't use them. Faster you go, the more you need them.
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02-26-2012, 10:02 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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I've wondered about this a time or two...the Pipers I've been flying have generally had static wicks on them (don't recall any on the Cessnas, but it's been awhile since I flew those).
So how come none on RV's? Or are they unnecessary on Cherokees, too?
I have no plans to put any on the -7A, but I'm curious about their use/advantages/disadvantages/etc.
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02-27-2012, 06:43 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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I have the static wicks on my -6. When I was building, I inquired at the Mooney Plant why some airplanes had the wicks and some didn't. I was told that the problem was the Loran. Precipitation static was particularly bad at 100 kHz. Since I was installing a Loran in my airplane, i added the wicks. Now that we are into GPS with a much higher frequency, the static wicks are no longer needed.
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02-27-2012, 09:17 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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Certification
Bonding is essentially required for all certified aircraft. The static discharge wicks are not required...
http://www.flightsimaviation.com/dat...rt_23-867.html
If you don't bond all parts together then you need to prove a lightning strike will have no effect.
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02-27-2012, 09:18 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aerhed
Most typically you don't see bonding wires unless you also have static dischargers to help dissipate the P-static buildup. Or the legendary clear air static buildup. I don't know a reason you can't use them. Faster you go, the more you need them.
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Not true - see previous post...
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02-27-2012, 09:50 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Big Sandy, WY
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Al, I guess I'll have to look this up. I know lots of old planes have no bonding but everything newer does. So, somewhere along the line this changed. You're maybe the best data sleuth on here, maybe you can find it.
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02-27-2012, 10:15 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aerhed
Al, I guess I'll have to look this up. I know lots of old planes have no bonding but everything newer does. So, somewhere along the line this changed. You're maybe the best data sleuth on here, maybe you can find it.
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Yep, it would depend on the year certified and the current rules at that time - the Grummans certified in the early-mid 70's are all bonded, as well as the 70's sailplanes I've seen.
My point was that it is not connected to the use of static wicks... 
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02-27-2012, 10:40 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Big Sandy, WY
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Well, it is connected to the static wicks, in that it provides a path TO the wicks (if installed). That being said, I just flashed back on a 46 BC12D I recently recovered and I distinctly remember bonding straps on the ailerons with their own special screw holes in the aileron brackets. So, once again I guess I posted without thinking.
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