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Old 02-21-2012, 08:57 PM
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The way I see it, most parts would have their own bin (or cell.) It doesn't make sense on some, however. #3 bolts get one cell, #4 another. There are just too may lengths, and we all have measures. Same with some obvious thing like bearings, where there is no mistaking male threads for female, etc. There are things we must know while building, and no amount of organizing can prevent stupidity. I fully expect an occasional -08 nutplate to find its way onto a -3 hole, no matter how well organized we become.

This is still a lot of work. Computers help, but it is difficult to figure how big the cell needs to be for 225 K-1000-08 nutplates. That is why I need a beta tester. EN-II builders (the Patriot Academy) will probably catch any errors, but I have made some pretty creative ones in the past...

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Old 02-21-2012, 09:43 PM
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For my build, I used an "off-the-shelf" solution instead of the little bags.

http://www.mykitlog.com/users/displa...g=128282&row=1

Clear storage bins that fit in a carry case (Stanley brand).
I copied after Mike was nice enough to spend a couple hours on a snowy night to show me his his project and tools. I was too cheap to by Stanley boxes - I went to Harbor Freight and bought 3 boxes for about $6.00 each, then bought a Brother Label maker and went to town.

I like the plastic bags that rivets and bolts were in. I did not like the paper bags. I am still having trouble knowing what rivet is which one just by the numbers. The screwiest thing is you use a #40 bit for the 3 rivets and a #30 for the 4 rivets. As for the #30 and #40 bits - try going to Home Depot and asking them for one of those. They get that blank stare on their face and hand you a case of a bunch of bits, none are #30 or #40. What that means is another order to the tool supply companies and more delivery charges!
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:07 AM
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When we started our RV7 6 years ago, we kept all the brown bags, labelled, with descriptions on the outside.

That lasted a couple of years, then I spent an afternoon, separating all standard parts, allocating slide out parts bins for each - where we had too many, I had a separate set of drawers for duplicated parts. All model specific parts, bushes etc went into labelled bins. The bins run by part/fastener type and size. I needed around 6 small bin sets qith 12 drawers each - got them from Home Despot when on a trip.

Now the 7 is flying, I have started an 8.

Once the kit arrived, everything was binned and again, model specific parts put into separate bins.

I still have 2 bags labelled - miscellaneous ! I presume at some point I will have a eureka moment and figure out what its for

As previous posters have said, it makes things a lot easier because you simply look at the nut, bolt, rivet call out on the plan and go directly to the drawer.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:47 AM
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The wall mount idea won't work for us as we put things up after every session. Things on a wall might disappear. Not all the students in the school have total respect...

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But since working at the airport requres less cleanup, wall mounts may be a good idea. Sure, you couldnt move the bins to the workspaces, but they would stay put
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:47 PM
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I bought the Harbor Freight boxes and I really like them. They are super cheap if you get them on sale. I think around $5 is what I paid for them. I like that you can take the little bins out and close the main container. I just use a marker and write on the side of each bin the part number. Some of the bins I wrote the bag number on the side just to be more organized. As I have continued from the Empennage to the Wings I purchased a couple more boxes and with the bins you can re-organize as you add more boxes. I now have 5 boxes. A few for different types of rivets, one for hardware, one has fittings and cable clamps. It is very easy for me to find any of these small items quickly. I first find the right box, then I find the part that I think I want, then I check the part number that is written on the bin. Easy. A label maker might make it look a little nicer, but it won't make it any more efficient.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:17 PM
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This is how it has turned out. I have finished the RV-12 storage system through the finish kit. It is a matter of putting about 330 part numbers from 136 bags into 96 containers--and being able to find them easily. I ended up with labels with the location number (box, row and cell in the row), brief description, (Flush rivet, etc.), all the part numbers contained in that cell, and the bag numbers placed in the cell.

There are two printed lists, one by bag number, giving where to place it's contents (some must be sorted, but not many) and another list by part number and where to find it. Even using a spreadsheet, this was a LOT of work. Some cells have to be larger than others, and we selected boxes with movable dividers. There are drawings on how to divide the boxes. We will be testing this beginning within a couple of weeks. The Patriot Academy has ordered the first three kits, so we will know quite a bit soon. I expect there will be a few corrections.

The boxes are made in the U.S.A., are good quality, and cost less that those from HF. This is going to be very cost effective! I expect someone to ask if the labels would work on their boxes. I doubt it, unless the boxes were the same configuration and size. No, it won't work with an RV-X, unless X=12. When we are happy with the way this works, it will probably be available from Avery. I do expect to add the engine kit and avionics kit soon.

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Old 03-04-2012, 09:14 PM
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We also took a mixed approach

After inventory I took a whole stack of partitioned parts boxes and allocated "stock" parts to them. Things like rivets, nut plates, bolts, washers, nuts etc. I label everything and its easy to find. We left the specialized parts in the numbered paper bags. When I need a specialized piece, a quick look at the the inventory list helps us find it. Clearly a list of parts by name with the associated bag would be of help, but the manual scan method seems to work pretty well.
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:35 PM
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...try going to Home Depot and asking them for one of those. They get that blank stare on their face and hand you a case of a bunch of bits, none are #30 or #40. What that means is another order to the tool supply companies and more delivery charges!
Wire gauge sized drill bits can be found in some Ace Hardware stores. I have looked and never found them in a Lowes or Home Depot.

I use a label printer and the multi-drawer plastic organizers from Harbor Freight.
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