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Old 12-12-2011, 10:13 PM
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In a few weeks I'm going to be ordering a Trio Pro Pilot and have been doing some thinking on this same subject. I have an INS-422 in my rocket panel along with a 396 so it goes without saying that GPSS isn't part of the game plan. The conclusion I've come to is it just isn't a big deal to fly the approach by hand...or at least in my case dollars spent vs. the very small percentage of my flying that is going to be shooting approaches just doesn't justify spending the money on a 430W to get this capability.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:51 PM
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Let me try again.
Yes it does fly to anything one can think of in the data base if you have it as a waypoint or a direct to point, but when you fly to a place with for example a VOR approach you then press the "Approach" button on the unit.
It will then give you the approach options for that airfielfd. In this case I have selected the VOR approach. You then select it and press "Activate". Then it shows the approach in plan form on the 430 but the AP will not fly it. At least this is what it looked like yesterday.

So it seems that while the 430 gives data to the AP in order to fly to points, the moment you select and activate an approach it stops sending the data?
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:49 AM
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The 430w does not output the VOR/LOC/GS signals over the serial port or as GPSS/GPSV. It does send it out of the analog ports and out of the 429 Nav ports but you need an auto pilot that can accept this data. (TT Sorcerer)


If you have the VSGV version of the TT and you have an EFIS that can transfigure the NAV signals into GPSS/GPSV signals, you can use that to fly the approach.
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:18 AM
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On the 430W you will get LPV guidance if you select the RNAV approach. And selecting an RNAV approach will give you GPSS steering.

I've been wondering why the Sorcerer is the only AP available that can fly a coupled localizer/gs.
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:24 AM
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The 430w does not output the VOR/LOC/GS signals over the serial port or as GPSS/GPSV. It does send it out of the analog ports and out of the 429 Nav ports but you need an auto pilot that can accept this data. (TT Sorcerer)


If you have the VSGV version of the TT and you have an EFIS that can transfigure the NAV signals into GPSS/GPSV signals, you can use that to fly the approach.
Spot on here! The ADI Pilot II has RS232 input only.

I like to use the term transmogrify.
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:37 AM
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Thanks guys!
So Lucas - what are my options without getting rid of what I have?
Thanks.
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transmogrify.
LMAO, Lister.

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Thanks guys!
So Lucas - what are my options without getting rid of what I have?
Thanks.
Without getting rid of a flight instrument, I would say wait for the Gemini 880. If you don't need the ADI as a backup instrument, you could go with a DII VSGV or Sorcerer. The Sorcerer is the one that will do an ILS. For the DII VSGV to fly an ILS you'll need an EFIS. Thanks!

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Old 12-15-2011, 01:37 PM
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What does the EFIS do that allows you to fly VOR/ILS with the AP?
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:10 PM
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I have a 430W that has the approach in it. The GRT HX can use the 430W GPS signal and data base to fly the ILS. My Trio Pro has GPSS/GPSV. It follows the GRT. In short, I can fly a coupled ILS.
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