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Old 11-19-2011, 08:33 AM
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Cristian---(at least I hope that is your name)---welcome to VAF.

Both of the companies you mentioned frequent the site, so hopefully you will get some direct info from them.

What model are you building??

Good to have you here
Thank you Mike! I?m buying a Inpaer Explorer (http://inpaer.com/aeronave.asp?mod=Explorer). It?s a 4 seat, high wing experimental aircraft powered by a Lycoming YIO-390. I choosed this forum because I?m a RV-10 fan but I still don?t have money for it! Maybe in a near future!
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:39 AM
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Having done a ton of research on all the EFIS systems available... I'd go with the AFS.

Question though, if you're already putting in the Aspen unit why not just go with their full package?
I?m putting Aspen because I need it to get the IFR certification from ANAC and because it replaces 6 TSO instruments needed to get the certification. If I choose the analogic instruments it will cost more.

I don?t want to go with Aspen full package because its screen is too small and it?s too expensive in Brazil!
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Old 11-19-2011, 09:43 AM
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Why not consider GRT? As far as I am concerned, they make one of the best EIFS, speically for an IFR type flying.
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:48 AM
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The original poster here has an Aspen and a GTN-750 in the panel. So it's really a question of what he wants an experimental EFIS for at all? It?s big and less expensive than 2 Aspen or 2 G-500!

Aspen does a PFD and SynVis.
The GTN does all mapping and approach plates. Does the owner want to pay for data twice in the plane? Data isn't free in Brazil, and you need to be sure you can get what you need from your vendor for your country. Aspen (or other TSO EFIS) is mandatory in Brazil in case of changing those 6 equivalent TSO gauges. Garmin have the best database for Brazil.

So I'm assuming the main purpose of the EFIS is actually for engine monitoring? Or just a backup EFIS? Or what??? Yes and no! I want a all-in-one solution, with big screen and reliability and less expensive.

If it's a backup EFIS, then it can be the primary autopilot, and spending big money to get 100% independent EFIS and autopliot is a bit of overkill. This whole airplane is a lot of overkill! Using Dynon, for example, what happens with Dynon AP if I lost Skyview? This is why I want an AP independent from EFIS!

As with any other EFIS discussion, it's up to the mission of the plane and the equipment. Both AFS and Dynon have tight integration with VP-X, the SL-30, and the GTN (I know this because I have one of each in my cube). Dynon doesn't support the WX-500 stormscope, but I'm 90% sure AFS doesn't either. They are working on this, as I talk to them. And about Dynon? I?m asking because I?m not a fanboy... all I want is a good product to satisfy my needs and my tastes.

I'd think for anyone to give a recommendation to this user they'd need to have a real conversation with them and determine what exactly they are trying to accomplish with their avionics. I was almost buying Skyview, but it doesn?t have an SD card slot and have less buttons to easy interact with it. I?ll fly with my father and he is 72 old. So, I want he really flying with me. But to accomplish this I need a easy to use EFIS. This is where the 21 AFS buttons makes diference!

Reading the manuals for each system would probably help a lot and give you a good sense of what the systems can do and what they can connect to. I?m already doing this in some parts, but I don?t have the apropriate time. Thank you!
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:50 AM
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For IFR flying, AFS for sure.
Thank you! Why?
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:53 AM
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My thought on this, never let a vendor tell you what is over kill. Ever seen a Ferarri or Corvette on the road. Want to talk about over kill?

Sometimes people just want stuff, its your money, go for it.

The Dynon or AFS may not support the WX-500 but your Aspen will.

On saying that. Why would you want to use a Dynon when you an Aspen? Because the screen is so much darn bigger and you can have a quick look at it without have to squint your way down to 20-20 vision just to make out your heading.

However I digress.....

Surely you would go the VP-200 with all that fine equipment.

The Vertical Power VP-X is more for saving panel space or just getting the in expensive option.

I would look into what you can do with the VP-200, it does a great deal and the display really adds a high degree of safety to your SOPs. Also I think with all that equipment you may not have the ability to handle enough connections with the VP-X. It is limitted. The VP-200 will give you the ability to connect more stuff to it.

On the EFIS side, be aware that Dynon does not have a vertical vector control if your going to be doing IFR approaches. I love Dynon but it just doesn't have that capability yet.

I personally like Dynon. I just like the display more. In truth either will do the job. I recon go with the one that makes you smile when you look at it.

Got it! About the VP-200, I didn?t think about it. That?s an option!
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:55 AM
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The new AF-5500 and AF-5600 will have Stormscope support in the very near future, we have been working on it.

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Old 11-19-2011, 11:27 AM
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Why not consider GRT? As far as I am concerned, they make one of the best EIFS, speically for an IFR type flying.
It?s not so big as AFS and Dynon and between GRT and Dynon I?d stay with the second as they are growing quickly.

Thank you!
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Old 11-19-2011, 11:31 AM
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For IFR flying, AFS for sure.
Just thinking... why it?s better for IFR?
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Old 11-19-2011, 11:37 AM
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Thank you! Why?
FWIW, Simply
1- the capabilities of what is available and working now vs. what and when it will be available.
2- I have flown behind both systems, including GRT and the difference for me was very obvious (this is for IFR flying)

If I was going to build again and IFR was part of the plan, I would certainly look only at GRT and AFS unless things have changed much.

Only my 0.02 based on my experince and I mean no disrespect to the other companies as they make great products.

But nothing is probably better than your own firsthand experience, so if you get a chance to fly behind them specially to shoot an approach, it will give you that ease of mind with your choice.
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