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Old 11-11-2011, 01:47 PM
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Mike, I have about 1600 hours in a 6A. No concerns.

I do not land on grass strips.

I have seen the results of one 6A flipover. Reportedly bungled approach with hard landing on nosewheel first.

The plane did not flip under it went off the runway and contacted softer dirt. Plenty of scrapping on the runway before that.

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Old 11-11-2011, 02:05 PM
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He sold the RV-9A and bought a Cirrus. So far has not damaged the nose gear on it.
This is all about training, practice, and technique. Any nosewheel can be damaged, just like any taildragger can be ground looped. Bluntly, I'm getting tired of people trying to fix incompetence with technology.



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Old 11-11-2011, 04:11 PM
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Cool! A Cirrus with LongEZ nose gear.
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Old 11-11-2011, 05:55 PM
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This is all about training, practice, and technique. Any nosewheel can be damaged, just like any taildragger can be ground looped. Bluntly, I'm getting tired of people trying to fix incompetence with technology.
+1. Well said.
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:08 PM
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Bluntly, I'm getting tired of people trying to fix incompetence with technology.
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+1. Well said.
I'm not thinking +1. I'm not sure of exactly what the thought line is. Is it to forget about anti-splat bars for nosewheels, or dismissing technology such as GPS in favor of old school?

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Old 11-11-2011, 11:37 PM
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Two words: Power Management Many thanks to Dan Checkoway for shooting this video! Rosie
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:43 PM
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I'm not thinking +1. I'm not sure of exactly what the thought line is. Is it to forget about anti-splat bars for nosewheels, or dismissing technology such as GPS in favor of old school?

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I didn't say anything about dismissing technology, my point is that many people are relying on technology to "save them" from problems that could be corrected by training and currency.

The anti-splat modification is a case in point. If it does work as promised, it could add to the margin of safety of a competent pilot. My issue is the person that installs the mod and feels that the nosewheel is now invincible. And no, that isn't an exaggeration, I have heard that logic expressed.

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Old 11-11-2011, 11:48 PM
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Two words: Power Management Many thanks to Dan Checkoway for shooting this video! Rosie
Ah! A picture is worth a thousand words. Nice Rosie, very nice!


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Old 11-11-2011, 11:57 PM
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Bluntly, I'm getting tired of people trying to fix incompetence with technology.
Well, I'm a low time pilot, who is human. Yes, I have done some dumb things, learned from them, and moved on. I'm also building an RV-9A and I'm willing to trade off a little performance (speed, weight, climb) for some forgiveness.

I owned a Skyhawk, and was landing in a pretty heavy cross-wind (I learned to fly at VNY so I'm pretty used to cross-wind) and all of a sudden, NO WIND! My plane was about 10 ft above the runway, and it just fell. YIKES! FULL POWER and go around! Even with my lighting fast reflexes, I bounced once. But guess what? The Skyhawk forgave me. No wrinkled firewall, no bent landing gear and no prop strike.

I guess I'm willing to pay a little extra, and give up a little performance to get that "Get out of Jail Free" card.

BTW: A TR-2 had a similar incident at Marysville, and was not forgiven. Prop strike and bent landing gear. Maybe they fell farther than me tho.

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Old 11-12-2011, 01:37 AM
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Bluntly, I'm getting tired of people trying to fix incompetence
BIG -1 for me

At the end of the day I think it's a very week link and needs to be fixed.

Stuff happens and there should be some margin...

I would rather drive a car with air bags then the same car without if I had a choice, especially if I have family in the car.

Doesn't mean I am a bad driver, because some days things go pear shape.

Its like car insurance. Just because I feel like I am a good driver doesn't mean I don't need it..........
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