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Old 10-30-2011, 10:37 PM
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After the dust settles in Reno this year, the races will continue. They don't shut down entire auto racing divisions because a spectator was killed, and it's happened a few more times there than it has in Reno. Which is easy, because it's only happened *once* at Reno. In something like 40 years of racing.
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Old 10-30-2011, 11:19 PM
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Big brother and the local news stations are watching all of us. A few inmature folks can screw all of us with their "watch me" actions. All of us lucky enough to fly RV's should just be thankful for what we get to fly and enjoy them in a sain way. Our "FAA friends" can make our lives not so good. Their job is NOT to promote aviation but to "protect the public". Think about that for awhile. If you doubt this sit back and watch what happens after the dust settles out in Reno this year.
The FSDO inspector I spoke to at the Scottsdale office after our complaint said that his calls about triple after a big newsworthy aviation incident like Reno.

Sure enough our complainer to the North called the day after the Reno accident to complain about a helicopter circling low (and unsafe) over his house...
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Old 10-31-2011, 04:59 AM
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Our "FAA friends" can make our lives not so good. Their job is NOT to promote aviation but to "protect the public". Think about that for awhile. If you doubt this sit back and watch what happens after the dust settles out in Reno this year.
It may not be the FAA that will effect Reno Air Race's future as much as the insurance companies. I wonder if RARA will be able to afford their new insurance premium.
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:20 AM
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Read somewhere that aviation insurance revenues are down 40% since 08. Insurance companys are hungry for business. Consensus is that Reno is insurable, just a question of price. RARA will double or triple the admission cost to cover insurance, and I have a feeling the city will accept modest insurance coverage that other cities would likely not accept. If Reno was $200 or even more per day I would still go. Over the last three years it has become my most important aviation event. I go mostly for the Unlimiteds, I could care less about the jets, but enjoy all the other classes.
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Old 10-31-2011, 11:12 AM
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I read somewhere that the insurance companies have weighed in on the Reno subject and there will not likely be a change in rates or coverage for the near term.
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Old 10-31-2011, 11:34 AM
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Their [FAA's] job is NOT to promote aviation but to "protect the public".
The FAA does both tasks mentioned above (and some others) and they do not contradict each other. Aviation becomes accepted and used by the public only if it is perceived as being very safe. How else would you get people to pay money to get into closed tubes that fly miles above the ground at 500 mph?

Protecting the public means cracking down on nimrod GA pilots. To be sure, sometimes other GA pilots get caught in the dragnet. So be it. Some of their regs need updating or adjusting, but if we don't police ourselves someone else will police us. You choose.
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Old 10-31-2011, 11:48 AM
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...I can see some new limitations, as seen at airshows after numerous tragedies threatened them......more separation of spectators from the flight line, course modification to further reduce energy directed at the crowd ,etc. etc.
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Old 10-31-2011, 12:26 PM
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...I can see some new limitations, as seen at airshows after numerous tragedies threatened them......more separation of spectators from the flight line, course modification to further reduce energy directed at the crowd ,etc. etc.
How about better testing of the race planes before they are allowed to race in public?
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How about better testing of the race planes before they are allowed to race in public?
Given all the military airplane crashes at airshows over the years, would you say the same thing about GD and NG and the other manufacturers?
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Old 10-31-2011, 01:33 PM
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How about better testing of the race planes before they are allowed to race in public?
#1 These airplanes and pilots are "tested" quite a bit before competition, but are by their very nature, on the edge. Nobody would watch a bunch of "perfectly safe" 172's dicing for position on the course

#2 The "public" are there willingly. They put themselves in harms way with eyes wide open.
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