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Old 10-27-2011, 05:31 AM
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Default Some thoughts on "perfection"

I am one of those guys that is not a perfectionist, and my airplane won't win any awards, but I wanted my airplane to be the best that I could build. When I was doing the final assembly I had a laser level and all that. Well, guess what, I found discrepancies almost everywhere I looked. 1/4" here, 1/2" there, and I obsessed over trying to get the thing perfect.
I have a twist in my left elevator such that with the leading edges of both elevators lined up with the leading edge of the HS the inboard trailing edge of the left elevator is 1-1/4" lower than the right one.
When I rigged the flaps I had to put a 1/2" joggle on the inboard end of the skin so it would sit flush with the fuselage, and the right flap doesn't.
I called the boys at Van's and they said "go fly". So with trepidation I did just that.
Well, guess what, my airplane flew hands off straight and level on the first flight. My point is, don't obsess over minor discrepancies in dimensions. As it has been said many times on this and other forums, these airplanes have been built by over 7,000 people, and I can promise you, every one has at least one thing the builder can point out that is not exactly the way he wanted it to turn out.
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:13 AM
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Default Thank You!

Being one of those CDO types (OCD, only arranged alphabetically) I get discouraged and will walk away from my project for days when things aren't perfect. I also know I don't have a great finesse for the finishing touches and there is a certain dread to that. Your encouragement means a lot. Thanks for thinking of others with your "confessions".
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Old 10-27-2011, 09:44 AM
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Default That having been said......

....when it comes to control surfaces, I would be meticulous and cautious in incremental flight test envelope expansion to explore flutter near or past NTE. Even dimensionally identical control surfaces can be improperly balanced, flutter and depart the airplane.
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Old 10-27-2011, 10:48 AM
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A friend bought a finished RV-3. The 1/2 inch plus twist in one aileron bugged him.

He built a new, straight aileron - din't notice any difference in handling or speed. It did look better though...
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:36 AM
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Thanks your words mean a lot to me, I too have been OCD'ing over every detail with an eye on fast, its nice to lnow that those "little things that make my plane a true custom - one off" will not impact me as much as I thought they would, in the end, I think it will cost me a few kph, but thats what H.P. is for!
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Old 10-29-2011, 12:10 PM
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Default I Think you have to use some common sense

A variation in the location of a rivet in a pattern is trivial but for goodness sake don't let anybody tell you that rigging is not important. The people at Van's know the builders are not all the best sheet metal workers in the world and they cut some slack on perfection. How much error you want to allow in the rigging of you creation is on you - not them. They know it will fly and if that satisfies your performance needs everybody is happy. On my airplane everything is rigged to the canopy deck reference plane and the central vertical perpendicular axis.


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Old 10-29-2011, 12:16 PM
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I never try to attain perfection, it just leaves so little room for improvement.
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Old 10-29-2011, 02:34 PM
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Somewhere during my 35+ years aerospace career, I heard the phrase " Perfection is the enemy of ...". Since my memory failed on the rest of the quote, I resorted to my best friend, Google, which led me to this: http://brandandmarket.com/perfection...of-excellence/ . To which I heartily concur.
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Old 10-29-2011, 03:22 PM
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This is an attitude matter I quess not a technical one as I had originally thought. Sorry for the confusion on my part.

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Old 11-22-2011, 11:09 PM
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Default "Better is the Enemy of Good Enough"

Couldn't agree more !!

Work out what is a sound and tidy level of workmanship and dont try to make things perfect. It inevitably winds up making the finished job worse as well as being scandalously time consuming.



The quote "Better is the Enemy of Good Enough" is worth a google BTW - learn a bit about Soviet Naval history :-)
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