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10-22-2011, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lancaster, PA
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Thats why I love filing IFR... they have to let me in 
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Lancaster, PA l RV-7 #3898 l Empennage l N627AB
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things" ~Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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10-22-2011, 08:59 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NC25
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I have had my RV in five (5) different Bravo airspace around the US after being Cleared on the radio. I was VFR with flight following on three (3) of the flights.
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NC25 RV-6 Flying
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To most people, the sky is the limit.
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10-22-2011, 09:05 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 2,125
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Jon,
I just flew through the SFO Class B (with clearance  ) yesterday, heading into San Carlos (KSQL). There were actually 3 RVs on the frequency, one of whom I chased all the way into SQL (we met and chatted on the ground).
My experience has been similar to the others. Call ATC early, sound professional (I give a courtesy call with "position, altitude, with request", and then make your request (in my case, "VFR flight following direct San Carlos, Class Bravo clearance"). That's just one example call.
Getting clearance into San Fransisco and San Diego Class B has been easier than getting an LA Class B clearance in my experience. Down in LA, I've almost always been told I had to transition via one of the VFR corridors, so I normally go over or around. Leaving OSH headed south then east, I stayed clear of the Chicago Class B (around then above), but used Flight Following, as I fly through there a lot at work, and know how busy Chigago's airspace is. I'd be interested to hear if folks get Chicago Class B clearances easily. Atlanta and Dallas are what I'd call very busy Class Bs too, and it sounds like it just depends (good to hear the experiences there, for future use!)
It can be done, just be on your game. Yesterday, when I first checked in, after a few minutes I was asked to do a 360 because of crossing Osprey traffic out of Travis AFB (first time I've seen one in flight). Then on the next freq, as I descended towards SQL, still staying under Class B, but with the lower sectors looming up fast, I had to gently nudge the controller about my Class B clearance (she was busy with other aircraft). Got the clearance just before I would have turned to parallel the lower boundary, and pressed on. Just know where ya are!
Worked out pretty slick, getting to go direct!!
Cheers,
Bob
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10-22-2011, 10:27 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Round Rock, TX
Posts: 3,778
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Looks like my post got nuked...??? Don't really know why, it was a true statement. Maybe the Moderator can give me a heads up on the rational. Anyway, Bravo is not hard to get clearance to fly into and communicating your intentions clear and well stated will help. Again, I would not advise entering Bravo without clearance, you will be spending some time on the phone when you land at your destination.
Also, if you're in Phase 1, read your ops limitations for sure.
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10-22-2011, 11:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Destin
Posts: 1,543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pierre smith
Whenever I fly west, Atlanta doesn't allow me in their Class B, even tho' I'm on flight following, going to an airport south of Atl. ..they must be too busy.
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you have to request through the bravo and it's all in how you ask, they have a typical corridor over the top of the field at 4000-5000 they will usually send you at
it helps to be IFR as well, then again, i've been over the field at 1200AGL in the helo, that was a blast
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10-22-2011, 12:22 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: KTCY
Posts: 643
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Quote:
Originally Posted by craigvince
The simple answer is that RVs are just like any other aircraft, experimental or otherwise. Check the FAR/AIM for Class B flights. The rules are the same in your RV-9A as they are in your Cessna 172.
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But ....
I wish I had a photo from the 767 with the 5 RVs on left base for 28L while the 767 was on short final 28R 
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Last edited by MauiLvrs : 10-22-2011 at 12:27 PM.
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12-02-2011, 07:30 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Suwanee, GA
Posts: 415
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5500 through ATL
I have found that ATL ATC will automatically say to stay out of class B, but if you ask to go "Over the top at 5500" they will then clear you into B. The only way they will let you cut through ATL airspace is if you are going over the top of Hartsfield. No just cutting the corner of B in atlanta.
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12-02-2011, 07:43 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Destin
Posts: 1,543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pierre smith
Whenever I fly west, Atlanta doesn't allow me in their Class B, even tho' I'm on flight following, going to an airport south of Atl. ..they must be too busy.
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request 4500 over the top, north to south
they'll usually do it right over the approach numbers of KATL
If you ask to "transition the bravo" you get mixed results, I've found it best to go ahead and line myself up on a southern heading, approaching or near 4,500, then call them up- they typically let me continue on
i believe it goes back to the old VFR corridors that were on the TAC before they decomissioned those
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12-02-2011, 11:36 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 122
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The next question is how about above the top of the class B?
Dallas's top is 11,000. A year ago, I was at 12,000 on an IFR flight right over the top of DFW and they rerouted me. I almost canceled IFR, told them I was climbing 500 ft and if they wanted to continue to talk to me, I would stay on flight following. I questioned the controller and he said that if I wanted to go to 18,000 I could continue on the current clearance route.
Problem is there was a solid deck I needed to penetrate at my destination so I re-routed and added 20 minutes to the flight.
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12-02-2011, 11:38 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: somewherville
Posts: 160
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hens07
Thats why I love filing IFR... they have to let me in 
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me too. I'm too lazy to fly VFR. 
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