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01-29-2011, 12:56 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Secluded Lake,Alaska (AK49)
Posts: 359
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Give and Take
Dora and I have had a more than a few discussions about how to spend our time and recources. There are all the common needs of the family that need to be met first. The remainder requires the each of us be willing to develope an intrest in what the other is doing. She has opened my eyes to many wonderfull experiances that I would not otherwise had. Like watching my sons face light up when a live symphony plays the first few notes, that memory still brings tears to my eyes. Flying just for the sake of flying is not her thing, but she is open to experiancing moments in the air because it is something I love.
We make an effort to be fair with discresionary income, however the running joke (no joke really) is "Honey, can I have some money? Yes, how much? All of it!" This works both ways.
Wives (or husbands) kids and airplanes, how much money does it take? ALL OF IT!
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01-29-2011, 01:39 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Corvallis Oregon
Posts: 3,547
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She has a horse
I had to upgrade the airplane just to keep up with her spending on her hobby..Easy, but good job we don't have kids..
Frank
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10-15-2011, 12:13 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sandwich, MA
Posts: 28
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If you want to build an RV... DON'T. If you HAVE to build an RV... Give it everything you've got.
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10-15-2011, 01:32 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,685
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I see you have lots of responses
If you have to convince her I think the time is not right. You have the aptitude and education to do the job but you seem to be spread across a lot of pleasure interests and you are wanting to build an aircraft when you don't even have a license to fly or any private aircraft pilot in command travel experience. I think I can appreciate her reluctance. If you really want to do this thing I think it is best to have the patience of Job and work on the private pilot certificate, then plan and do some travel in a private aircraft with her to unique places for your combined pleasure, earn an instrument rating and build your (her included) combined experience and competence. Study the kit world and build your awareness of what is available and the pros and cons of the various airplanes that continue to evolve. Building is a several year commitment and it is not without several serious risks personally, mechanically, electronically, leagally, financially, accidentally, aeronautically, medically and maritally. The commitment is so large for most working people that it either can't be completed or it is an all consuming terminal path to one special interest to the exclusion of all others. Are you really ready for that? I think you should take advantage of the path you are already on, savor the experience, preserve your options and not crush the golden opportunity that you have in front of you in haste for satisfying your current desire. I think that if you show commitment over time the value will become obvious and she will be a part of the process in getting and building a plane.
By the way, how has it worked out for you over these 3.5 years since your original post?
Bob Axsom
Last edited by Bob Axsom : 10-15-2011 at 01:38 PM.
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10-15-2011, 02:06 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 4,435
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How Far Can You Go in a Day?
She already knows how far she can go in a car in a day. It's roughly from your place to Boulder, CO. In a Cessna 172, she can go almost twice that far. In an RV, she can easily go three times that and be there in time for dinner.
Another way to look at it is to think of a week's vacation, and compare the stay time versus the traveling time in a car or Cessna 172 or the RV.
Avoiding bad weather is much, much easier in a fast plane than a slow one. The RV will cut weather delays in half compared to the Cessna 172, and that's a big deal.
All this is day VFR, it's the only way I fly.
Dave
Cessna 180, about 15% slower than an RV
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10-14-2014, 07:59 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Fairhope
Posts: 13
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Need Help Convincing Wife!
Fellow aviation enthusiasts, I have quite a dilemma! I've always been interested in aviation and have flown R/C since the young age of 14 when my dad introduced me to the sport. I've always wanted to fly the "real" thing, but never took the plunge. It had always interested me, but I never took it as a priority.
Well, fast forward some 27 years and my lovely wife surprised me for my 40th birthday with a flight lesson. Needless to say, that sparked a fire within that I can't seem to put out (Mind you, I don't want to either)! I'm in the process of finishing my certification and only lack a check ride. So, I'm very excited to say the least.
Now comes the fun part. While I appreciate the 172SP's with G1000 that I've been training in, that time is closing fast. I will be paying a minimum of $150/hr plus fuel just to get a few hours flight time in a month. My wife knows as much as I love to fly, this going to be an expensive habit to support. We are both to the conclusion that it's a lot like renting a house or any other piece of merchandise. Why pay for the rental fee, when we could put the same amount of money into the cost of ownership.
Ok, now that you have a little back ground, here's where I need help, advice, SOMETHING. I'm very much into the Experimental aircraft scene and have no issues at all either building or purchasing a well built VANS. She on the other hand doesn't like the fact of it being built by a "non-certified" individual. As I've told my wife individuals who put that much time and energy into an aircraft don't take short cuts on safety because it's what they love.
My wife on the other hand want's a Piper, Cessna, or even a Cirrus just because it's "certified". I try to tell her the guy building the plane get's paid an hourly rate to do it because he has to.. it's a job. The guy who built one on his own, 99% of the time does it out of love for his passion of flying. Even though the company is certified, doesn't necessarily make him any more of a skilled worker than the guy building one in his garage.
I want to be able to fly at a reasonable price and it still be FUN. Not some burden where I'm afraid to fly because of maintenance cost, annuals, etc.
So, does anyone have any advice or guidance? Have any of you been through this before? Any groups of Van's owners in the South Alabama (Fairhope) area that she can take a look at or even watch the process? I've ordered the DVD media kit from Van's and really hope I can get here to come around.
Thanks for all the answers, guidance and input.
Happy flying and may many safe landings be in your future....
Best Regards,
Philip Abernathy
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10-14-2014, 08:07 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 82
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It might be easier to get a new wife.
Just kidding.... sort of...
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RV-8 empennage DONE
Wings 99% done
Fuselage in progress
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10-14-2014, 08:16 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: orwigsburg pa
Posts: 72
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If you have the cash for a cirrus I buy certified of some sort and a experimental of your choice.
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10-14-2014, 08:20 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Delaware, OH (KDLZ)
Posts: 4,196
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Take her to OSH and let her meet other builders and their spouses. It does wonders on changing their perspective, at least it did with mine.
Do you have an active EAA chapter with homebuilders? Take her to visit some projects.
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10-14-2014, 08:28 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: lake charles, La.
Posts: 699
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I beat Mike to it...nah nah nah
Welcome To VAF!!!
Get her a ride in a good experimental airplane with a good pilot, no show offs, show her the performance and maintenance cost differences from a certified. Show her the different prices in insurance, they deal with risk, so that may help. Buy her flowers, hug her everyday. Hope and pray. Get your pilots license if you haven't yet, dont wait.
bird
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rv8 entire airframe at airport now, painting done, intersection and gear upper and lower fairings done, maybe order engine around first of year or before the next rate increase.
"to fly is a privilege that I am so thankful to God for"
http://www.mykitlog.com/tcb328/
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