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Old 10-07-2011, 11:23 AM
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...the first question was "have you seen any UFO's?".
I have seen UFO's, but they were "U" only until I could "I" it.

As pilots, we look at the sky a lot. One day I saw a UFO in a clear blue sky over an area about 15 miles south of the Twin Cities. Eagan to be exact. My initial guess was that it was one of those fancy mylar balloons they sell at fairs, the zoo etc.

I tracked it as it grew in size. I was driving towards it, and my wife was with me watching it too. Not a plane. Not a hot air balloon. Not a mylar helium balloon. What the heck?

It was getting closer to the ground. Since we were driving towards where it appeared it's ultimate destiantion would be, I started turning onto side streets because I was getting really curious.

I finally pulled over, got out of the car and watched it.

At about 500' AGL I finally recognized it for what it was. A tent.

One of those light weight 2-man bullet shaped tents, set-up, and falling (upside down) out of a clear sky. My guess is that I initially spotted it at about 4000'. I would have grabbed it, but it fell into a tree in someone's backyard.

I've always assumed in came from somewhere way out west, sucked up in a big mountain wave, and deposited hundreds of miles east.
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Old 10-07-2011, 12:07 PM
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Default My UFO Tale...

One summer afternoon in '82 I was flying a sailplane out of Crystalaire Gliderport in the Mojave desert, not too far from EDW. At about 9000' msl and approximately 1 mile west of my position, I watched the most absurdly shaped flying object I had ever seen. Nothing about it suggested any compliance with known aerodynamic laws. It looked, for lack of a better description, like the illegitimate offspring of a duck and a subway car, and flew about as fast as either one. No propulsive system was visible.

I was circling at the time, so lost sight of it during part of my turn. After 3 or 4 turns it had moved away and I could not pick it up any longer. For years afterward I couldn't imagine what it might have been.

In 1996, the Air Force publicly revealed the existence of Tacit Blue. Bingo. Mystery solved.
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Old 10-07-2011, 12:38 PM
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Default Fly-by in order

KevinL...you guys at LXT have to put this on your calendar...


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You guys might like the Ozark National UFO Conference:

http://www.ozarkufo.com/

I went a few years back and it was certainly interesting.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:56 PM
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I really like the RV line of planes & hope to own one in the near future. My only question from reading all these articles & watching the "eye witness" accounts of the sightings is this. When I get my RV, where do I get the speed mods to make it fly at 300-400mph. Also, the "Hover" mod would come in handy also. I am not sure I want the silence mode as I have alway thought RV's sounded

Any help or advice would be welcome so I could have the fastes RV in SW Kansas
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:18 AM
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To me UFO sightings by the general public prove that many do not have the inherent understanding of physics that we take for granted. We are used to seeing someone flying tangent to you with a large closure rate, then turn towards you and the rate seems to stop (as they come straight at you) then turn again. This is the basis for so many "hovering" illusions.

If you do not fly at night very often it would be good to review many of the physiological effects/tricks our eyes can play.

Nystagmus - stare at an unmoving light long enough and it seems to move back an forth.

Slightly angled clouds seem to make a horizon, etc.

I will admit to flying out over the ocean, very few boats out, and calling traffic low...my instructor called it no factor since it was a sailboat!

Also, in the mediterranean at night, flying with FLIR, we saw what we thought was a lot of traffic on a road driving straight towards us. WAY too far out to get a visual, so we kept flying closer, eventually about 30 min later(once we had radar) realized it was LAVA flowing down mount Etna!
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:26 AM
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Talking An Idea for Team RV

I think Team RV should start making night formation passes over UFO conferences - Just high enough to be silent. Should be informative for all involved!

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Old 10-08-2011, 11:58 AM
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Once I thought I saw R2D2 (from Star Wars) at about 3000 feet. Upon circling back to investigate, it turned out to indeed be R2D2, or at least a Mylar balloon version.

The Ozark UFO conference is indeed a good fly-in destination- that's how I got there. The airport is on the top of a ridge and the runway can be a challenge to pilots from the flat places. The quality of the speakers varied considerably. One spoke about the cultural impact of UFOs with the main point being that regardless of their existence, they have made a big impact on our culture. Another spoke about techniques for evaluating alleged photographs of UFOs with regard to lighting, depth of field, etc. He said that in his many file cabinets full of photos, about 25% couldn't be proven to be fakes by his techniques. On the other side of the spectrum was the presenter who spoke about various frequent alien sightings throughout his life that he didn't remember until he was in his 50s.

There are interesting people in the Ozarks, as-is, but when you invite the folks who want to talk about UFOs, you can imagine that the crowd includes some real characters.
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:58 PM
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I think Team RV should start making night formation passes over UFO conferences - Just high enough to be silent. Should be informative for all involved!

Hans
Where is the like button? I had the same thought.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:13 PM
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Default Great Thread!!!

This is really a great thread. I agree that formation flights should be scheduled in the region of UFO conferences. The team could add to the illusion by lead calling Landing lights on an off in various sequences. Hilarious.

Night can cause some weird visuals. My area of responsibility includes the Goldwater gunnery range in AZ. The F16's from Luke AFB, A10's from Davis Monthan and who ever else is in town to train, often light up the night. When we get a flight in the area, we have a flight corridor we must fly. With NVG's the marking flares are extremely bright and look like the are right in front of us. In reality they are quite far away. Very cool to see explosions at night was they are doing their bomb runs. Also tracer fire!!! Once had an F16 go over us at about 500 feet. The AB is very bright when it is that close. Fun, fun stuff.

Can't wait to hear the next RV UFO fly in!!!!
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