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09-30-2011, 05:06 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Uberaba, MG, Brazil
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Door fell off in Brazil
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09-30-2011, 05:16 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Delaware, OH (KDLZ)
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Google translation
The door of the plane that crashed on two residences in the city of Annapolis, 55 km from Goiania, in the early evening of Thursday (29), was taken away and will be brought to the Centre for Research and Prevention of Aeronautical Accidents (Cenipa ), Brasilia (DF). The information was given to the entry of the TV Anhanguera by Captain Felix, Anapolis Air Base. He reported that only a serial number found on the door of the aircraft. From it, the origin of the plane will be investigated.
Port plane hits two homes in Anapolis (GO) Pilot of plane that crashed out of the ICU in Goi?nia, but follows internadoAvi?o small falls in the backyard of residence in Goiania
Residents said the plane took off from the airport of Annapolis, which is about two miles from the Jardim Treasury. A loud noise was heard, and in seconds, the object fell into the homes. "Hence the ground, we saw people inside the plane," says Moreira Celio, owner of one of the houses damaged.
Lucilene Gomes, owner of another house damaged, says he had left home and when he returned, took a big scare. "I left a bit to go to a sale. When I returned, the staff was already there on the street. Everything was broken, "she says.
The door of the plane got stuck in the wall next door. According to Celio Moreira, after the accident, the aircraft had returned to the airport. He said minutes later in a car, four men tried to pick up a villager door. "They wanted to remove the piece of the plane to take, said that before but I would call the police so that they (the boys) pay for the damage," he recalls.
The street was blocked by the Military Police and Fire Department to await the expertise. "It is necessary to accomplish here in place to raise a skill which actually were the causes of this accident," said Lieutenant-Colonel of the Fire Department, Matthew Dewilson Altino.
Roof damaged
According to the Annapolis Fire Department, a house was damaged part of the roof and the other did not suffer major damages. Popular said it was a single engine. According to firefighters, there were no casualties. The Military Police (MP) in the region still does not know the causes of the accident. Residents said the plane landed at the airport without the door.
The news crew of TV Anhanguera went to the city's airport, but nobody wanted to record an interview. It was also tried to contact the National Civil Aviation Agency (ANAC), but the calls were not answered
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10-01-2011, 04:16 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Brisbane Qld. Aust.
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So was the door of a -10?
Looks pink 
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10-01-2011, 04:42 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
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Four now!
Best I can deduct, that makes four now.
Guys, it is a PRIORITY of mine to:
A) Personally check the door, and,
B) Ensure that the trim is set for takeoff. Both critical in a -10.
Best,
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10-01-2011, 06:53 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Brisbane Qld. Aust.
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Yep!
Mine too!
They will not fall off for no good reason...........I hope!
500hrs and two doors still in place 
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10-01-2011, 08:11 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mpumalanga, South Africa
Posts: 1,065
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There have been numerous threads about this, most of which I have read. I have my finish kit with all the doors and sensors. Even without any extra door locks, I fail to see how it is possible to get airborne with the doors unsafe IF you have a correctly fitted door and sensor system - whether it be wired to the supplied lights or a EMS.
Assuming, of course, that you do a proper Before TO Checklist.......
Is it possible to get a pin outside the frame and still get a locked indication from the magnetic sensor?
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10-01-2011, 08:24 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: St. Louis, MO
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While I never actually tested to see if the magnetic door switch that Vans provides would activiate if the pin were on the other side of the fuse, I did check to see how close one had to put the switches together. It is alarming how far apart from the magnet that the switch will activate. I am going with mechanical switches to sense total pin engagement. That way not only does the pin have to be inside the frame, it has to be fully engaged.
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10-01-2011, 09:53 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Alarming?
Bill, you are correct in pointing out that the magnetic switch willl activate
about 1/4" from full contact.
It is up to you to position those switches at the correct distance or far
enough away from the pins to make you comfortable that the doors are actually closed.
Even a mechanically actuated switch will have a certain length of travel before electrical contact is made, much like the magnetic switch.
Loosing a door in Brazil sure made big news.
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Running on E10 mogas
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10-01-2011, 12:04 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 554
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position sensors
Mine will not set off the magnetic sensors if the pins are outside the door. The cam holds the door away from the exterior so far but even if it didn't I think it wouldn't set them off.
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10-01-2011, 12:30 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Huskerland, USA
Posts: 5,862
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pierre smith
Best I can deduct, that makes four now.
Guys, it is a PRIORITY of mine to:
A) Personally check the door, and,
B) Ensure that the trim is set for takeoff. Both critical in a -10.
Best,
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Bingo.
Only the PIC can shut the doors in my 10. Period.
The warnings lites work fine, but the problem is seeing them in direct sunlight. I have learned to just lean over and double check them by touching the pin or pushing on the aft side of the door to make sure the pin is engaged.
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Last edited by Geico266 : 10-01-2011 at 12:35 PM.
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