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08-07-2011, 08:03 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Posts: 778
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AVC race
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Originally Posted by jrs14855
I assume most know that the Airventure Cup Race is on EAA's hit list.
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Perhaps, but below is what Eric Whyte (the race chairman) said about this back in March:
...Anyway, EAA is supporting the race this year and I have my official paperwork appointing me as the Race Chairman. The Race staff will be returning as well. EAA has become more and more supportive of the race over the past few years. That has mainly been due to the support of the EAA Homebuilt Advisory Counsel. Doug Kelly took it upon himself to learn more about who we are and what we do and soon realized that it is a valuable event. ... In talking to the other members of the Homebuilt Advisory Counsel they have become more supportive of the event because of the participation in the convention of you and the rest of the guys that race. They like the fact that you guys tweak your airplanes and constantly strive to make them faster, safer and more fuel efficient. Recently we had a conversation that they would like to see more Participatory activities for the homebuilders at Oshkosh. Right now the AirVenture Cup is about the only way that the average EAA member can participate in the convention with their aircraft. So we have been getting more support. I hope to see that continue in 2011...
A few years ago it seemed that some homebuilders perceived the AVC as an event for rich guys who could afford fast airplanes (obviously they haven't seen my tax returns). This seems like less of a concern now. The bigger issue may be that EAA would like to see earlier planning of the AVC, which Eric is working on doing.
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Alan Carroll
RV-8 N12AC
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08-07-2011, 08:19 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Posts: 778
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Originally Posted by dabney
How about on the last day all the planes that won awards particpate in a fly-by, or several fly-bys. If not a fly-by how 'bout a taxi-by then showcase them all at show center in the Plaza, this year called the Conoco-Philips Plaza I think.
It would great to see all the winners in one place and provide the builders/restorers/maintainers with a little recognition they deserve. There are always some great RV's in the mix.
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This is a nice idea but may not be practical because a lot of them are gone by Sunday afternoon. However, maybe an invitation could go out to invite them to the next year's show for some sort of showcase?
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Alan Carroll
RV-8 N12AC
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08-07-2011, 10:40 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: LSGY
Posts: 3,203
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Improvements
I had a great time. Cheaper water would have been great, but I could have carried my own.
I'd love to see more builders near their aircraft. I was able to visit with a handful of guys and it was really great. Perhaps a fixed time every day when builders will be at their planes to answer questions? This could help current builders and spark more people to start building when they meet them and find out that they are just regular guys and gals like them.
It's a shame about the food in the show - really not up to the standards of the rest of the show, but there was great food available in Oshkosh, thankfully!
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08-07-2011, 05:04 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 2,357
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Originally Posted by pjaffray
I agree that the Airventure paper seems to ignore any "bad" news. I didn't hear about the cub accident until I read it on an external news site.
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I have always had the impression the Airventure paper ignored bad news too, so I made a point of looking for the Cub accident after I learned about from other sources. There was a very short article about the accident in the Airventure paper the day after the accident. The article didn't have the grizzly details about the accident that you could read in the local papers or online, but they did clearly state there were two fatalities.
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08-07-2011, 05:53 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: DuBois,Il
Posts: 144
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More on the Cub Crash
The thread is starting to drift a little, but please indulge me.....I agree with all those who said the AirVenture paper seems to gloss over the bad stuff...Yes, the Cub did depart from KOSH..but (I believe) crashed to the south by Fond Du Lac, several miles outside the KOSH Class D. Just playing devil's advocate here, but does the paper have a duty to report the incident? I stayed in a hotel near FDL, and the incident was covered (with video) on all local stations from Milwaukee to Appleton for 2 days straight...If the incident had happened at Wittman, I would be considerably more critical....if they should report this, where do they draw the "reporting" line...50 miles...1000 miles?...I would not expect the INDY paper to report every traffic crash for people going to/from the 500...Not saying they were right, just offering another view...
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Brian K. Morrow
DuBois,Il
N433BC RV-7A Flying
RV-12is EMP done, FUSE in progress!..Official Repeat Offender
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08-07-2011, 06:54 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Cedar Park, TX
Posts: 3,156
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I'm not sure what all the hubub about water is. We always carry three simple water bottles, one for me, one for you, and a backup. We simply refill them at the fountains all over, very often. This is part of our aimless wandering objectives. Living in central Texas, we are well aware of the need to drink almost as much as you can at OSH. The most we have ever spent on water at OSH was a total of $3. If you can only drink it if it is ice cold...
We improved our Airventure strategy by figuring out "nap time". After some lunch (we didn't eat a single bit of "carnival food" this time) around 1:15pm, if the weather is good, we retreat to our airplane and I go into low cpu mode for a couple of hours under the wing. I put down the canopy cover and rolled up other random stuff in the airplane for a pillow and I was a seriously happy camper. I talked to a ton of people wandering by during this time. Ask me any question or sit down and listen to me talk about all the questions you didn't ask, but I'm not getting up  .
I'm going to improve Airventure 2012 for me by bringing a little camping pillow for my afternoon time off of the feet!
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Scott Card
CQ Headset by Card Machine Works
CMW E-Lift
RV-9A N4822C flying 2200+hrs. / Cedar Park, TX
RV8 Building - fuselage / showplanes canopy (Done!)
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08-07-2011, 08:04 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Lake Havasu City AZ
Posts: 2,393
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cub crash
As close as I can determine on google map, the crash site was less than 6 statute miles from the numbers of 36.
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08-07-2011, 10:43 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Inver Grove Hgts, MN
Posts: 329
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scard
I'm going to improve Airventure 2012 for me by bringing a little camping pillow for my afternoon time off of the feet!
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One area in which there is no room for improvement... Tanya's cookies! The first nice thing that happened at Oshkosh after I climbed out of the SteinAir "Clown Car" RV-9 was meeting Scott and Tanya and getting a cookie. Thanks!
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Mike Hilger
RV-6 N207AM w/G3X, 1,600 hours +
South St. Paul, MN (KSGS)
A&P, EAA Tech Counselor
We're all here because we're not all there...
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08-07-2011, 11:27 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Arlington, WA
Posts: 174
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scard
I'm not sure what all the hubub about water is. We always carry three simple water bottles, one for me, one for you, and a backup. We simply refill them at the fountains all over, very often. This is part of our aimless wandering objectives. Living in central Texas, we are well aware of the need to drink almost as much as you can at OSH. The most we have ever spent on water at OSH was a total of $3. If you can only drink it if it is ice cold...
We improved our Airventure strategy by figuring out "nap time". After some lunch (we didn't eat a single bit of "carnival food" this time) around 1:15pm, if the weather is good, we retreat to our airplane and I go into low cpu mode for a couple of hours under the wing. I put down the canopy cover and rolled up other random stuff in the airplane for a pillow and I was a seriously happy camper. I talked to a ton of people wandering by during this time. Ask me any question or sit down and listen to me talk about all the questions you didn't ask, but I'm not getting up  .
I'm going to improve Airventure 2012 for me by bringing a little camping pillow for my afternoon time off of the feet!
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That seems to be my exact plan. I try to always have a full water bottle and I rotate which one I drink out of between fills. I used to walk around the whole day but decided this year (First in HBC, 6 previous in scholler) to go back to the plane and read a book or organize my pictures. If you were in HBC during that time, you may have seen me under the white canopy tents reading a good aviation book... 
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Casey D. Stewart
RV-7 N957RV (right seat if I am lucky  )
C-150 N4265C for the PPL
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08-08-2011, 11:35 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Cornish, NH
Posts: 391
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pilotian
How about EAA not charging $8 for parking at the seaplane base!!!!!!!!! (Should be free with a wrist band).
Absurd
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The part I liked a couple years ago was taking the "free" bus to the seaplane base. Yes, it was in fact a free bus ride to the seaplane base. However, the bus ride BACK was not free! Not very cool.
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Brian Meyette, Cornish, NH
1995 RV-6A - N16RK (Ralph Koger) SOLD
RV-7A - incomplete, supercharged Subaru STi - N432MM - SOLD
2001 Quad City Challenger II LW - N28RT SOLD
www.meyette.us/RV-7Ahome.htm
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