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Old 08-04-2011, 10:58 AM
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I haven't deeply read in detail, but it looks like the Garmin 696 would be also affected by this AC? So I'm thinking it's "just" a draft and a mistake...

Anyway, resistance is futile. One way or the other, the iPad will rule the EFB world... period! Soon, with new Aspen Connect stuff, you will get your certified GPS to send the position to your iPad. So no need for the iPad by itself to have the GPS... you could even just use the Wifi version and claim that the iPad doesn't have GPS... It's just silly then...

If it's an intentional move, it might just be a last resort from an avionics manufacture and/or Jeppesen... LOL!!

And in this case, I do agree with Mitch, it's better to let know our voice on that because it just doesn't make any sense.

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Old 08-04-2011, 11:16 AM
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At the moment no US part 121 air carriers can use Ipads in the cockpit. There is a limited test going on at Alaska and American. The tests are for using the Ipads to display charts and plates but not for navigation. Currently the FAA requires a Ipad in a 121 application to be powered off and stowed below 10,000 feet. The test is to consider allowing them for full time use as a EFB. If the 10,000 foot rule is not changed then there is little value to the airlines to equip the pilots with Ipads. They would still require almost full paper backups.

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Delta is testing the iPad as well.
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:52 AM
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actually I have delt with them quite a bit and found ALMOST all of them to be very professional and well trained. Even if they were not, AC's are not enforceable - therefore don't worry about it.
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:32 PM
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from an email I got from Flying magazine this AM

Use an iPad Go to Jail?
Is the FAA trying to take away our handheld navigators and chart readers? A new draft advisory circular would sure make it seem like it. In fact, if it were approved as written, for all intents and purposes, it would mean the end of being able to see our position on moving map displays...and then some. To get the lowdown on this alarming situation, read Robert Goyer's Going Direct.
With any luck at all, the guy who wrote that AC has been laid off - maybe he won't be back.

There are a lots of good people in the FAA but there are also many desk bound bureaucrats from top to bottom in the U.S. government who's only function is to irritate U.S. citizens like us. With the long over due budget cut backs maybe there will be fewer obstructionist bureaucrats in the future.

You should have heard the guy at an OSH forum talk about the FAA and 100UL fuel. The fuel is good, its been tested, it will work, it can be produced just like 100LL - the only problem is certification. FAA bureaucrats nearly caused several years of research work to be flushed down the drain - the effort had been completely stonewalled.

The guy went to a new person in the FAA above this stumbling block of regulators and the result was the entire FAA team is gone. A new group was formed and the effort is now moving forward. He said more was accomplished in the past six weeks than the previous three years. We may have a suitable replacement for 100LL one of these days and the aviation world won't come to end as we know it. !00LL is on short life support - lead is the problem and that won't go away.

This AC on the Ipad smells, someone appears to have been bought off. There are other efforts within the organization working with industry to get it approved for more applications. ADS-B is one of them.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:30 PM
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Default Hmm, not sure what it means

but just today got this e-mail from Jepp introing their I Pad app


http://www.jeppesen.com/apps/mobilef...id=exem5500737

Will read the AC in detail tonight, helps with sleeping.
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:47 PM
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At the moment no US part 121 air carriers can use Ipads in the cockpit. There is a limited test going on at Alaska.........

George
The first part of your post shown above is not correct.

sailvi, pm me if you want to discuss it further.
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:38 PM
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Default I PAD

I KNOW OF AN AIRLINE THAT JUST ORDERED 11,000 PADS FOR EFBs.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:45 PM
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According to this link American has 11,000 pilots. Coincidence?

http://forums.jetcareers.com/airline...bandwagon.html
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:01 AM
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According to this link American has 11,000 pilots. Coincidence?

http://forums.jetcareers.com/airline...bandwagon.html
and they are in TX's......hmmmmmmmm Union Perks?
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:25 AM
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latest...as suspected...and I attribute action by the FAA to all of you out there....Social Media is a powerful tool!

http://www.flyingmag.com/news/faa-cl...id=enews081111
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