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Old 06-11-2006, 10:13 PM
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Default Thoughts/opinons of paint scheme

I'm getting ready to spend the money and go to the paint shop. My wife and I have come up with a scheme we both really like. Just wanted to get thoughts/opinions. I haven't shown the painter yet, just wondering from those of you with elaborate schemes, how much more expensive is it to have the extra curvy wavy lines? Is it 100% more or just 25% more? Ballpark?

Note: I'm not a very good artist, but this is close to what we want.

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Old 06-11-2006, 10:31 PM
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I like the layout but can't help with cost. I'm sure others will be able to.
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Old 06-11-2006, 11:40 PM
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"Standard" pricing seems to be for a white base and two color stripes.
Some paint shops charge extra for a solid color on the bottom of the fuselage. In my case it was +$500. The red might count as that.
The third color might get you an extra charge over base...
I don't think the stripes are too excessive... since you are only using white and three colors, and I think they'll be able to paint the black over the grey.

Actually, you have made it a bit easier for the painter. You have no color on the flaps, ailerons and elevators, so the painter won't have to do any control surface fitting in mid painting to mask any paint breaks..... only on the rudder.

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Old 06-11-2006, 11:48 PM
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Rusty -
I can't help with the cost estimates, but since you asked...
Have you considered more of a swoop pattern for the wheel fairings?

Fuselage - looks great!
Fairings? a little "flat top"

Just my 2 cents.
BTW - wish I was as far along!!!

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Old 06-12-2006, 08:17 AM
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Looks good. Having just painted my plane myself I can tell you the cost will go up dramatically with the addition of colors and curves. As an example, it took 66 hours to just mask my fuselage. The wings took about 40 hours. After you get one side done, the design needs to transfered to the other side. This involves using "pounce paper." Very time consuming. Now after that is done, you have to paint in some order, and remask the color you just painted. Repeat for every color. When all done, many hours of prep before clear coating.

You could probably save some money by using vinyl for the swooshes on the sides. The design process, cutting and application will be around a $1000 based on inquires from a couple of the scheme designers.

Lots of variables beyond the above. The biggest being the preparation of the airframe to quality standards. If the shop does it all, $$$$$$.

Certainly not trying to rain on your parade but I learned a lot painting my plane. I have over 600 hours in prep and painting. If I was to do it again, I would, 1) Use a much simpler design with less curves, 2) use a single stage paint, and 3) I'd probably let some one else do it.

Good luck. Keep everyone posted.
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:13 AM
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Rusty,

Your scheme looks pretty nice to me...but what really matters, is if it looks good to you! My criteria for deciding my scheme was "final' was that it had been on the wall of my office, on the refrigerator door, and my computer for three months - and I hadn't thrown it in the trash! I'm hoping to see it for real soon, and while I'm hoping others like it, the real criteria is if I enjoy seeing it when I open the hangar door.

Your design looks very much in the current style, so I'd show it to your painter, and if he squawks or talks about how difficult it will be (especially if he tries to talk you into something else), I'd think about checking with some other painters.

You've probably spent a big chunk of money on your airplane, and will spend a fairly large amount on paint. If it costs more to get the design you want, I bet it will still be a small percentage of what you have in the project - and if you settle for less, you might kick yourself later....

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Old 06-12-2006, 09:21 AM
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Default Thanks everyone for the great input

I think more "swoosh" on the wheel pants is a great idea! I'm still concerned about how much this is going to add to a basic paint scheme but it is what we really want! Keep 'em coming!

Thanks!
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:59 PM
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I would agree a swish on the wheel pants would tie things together. You can tell I'm not a graphics designer.
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Old 06-13-2006, 02:50 PM
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Default Tasteful?

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I would agree a swish on the wheel pants would tie things together. You can tell I'm not a graphics designer.
Steal borrow copy cheat. Also keep it simple and tasteful. This last sentence is subject to individual personal opinon to what constitutes simple and tasteful. Clearly the cool trend is a simple monochrome base color with vinyl graphics. Other than that there is nothing new under the sun. G
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:09 AM
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Default Here's what we did.

I had to chime in on this one because your design has some similarities to what we did. We painted last November and I have about 100 hours on her now.
We used PPG base coat and clear. I can tell you it gets really expensive, somewhere around $2200 in materials alone. Add $700+ for a fresh air system, a real must for isocyanates!

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