|
-
POSTING RULES

-
Donate yearly (please).
-
Advertise in here!
-
Today's Posts
|
Insert Pics
|

06-08-2011, 12:22 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2011
Location: In my body
Posts: 13
|
|
 Yes you just maybe correct..sure sounds like the easiest way to get where I am trying to get,,,Sad! sorry to hear about your friend 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocketbob
Sounds like you just want a fastback -3. No need to stretch it, as there is plenty of room n the cockpit. A friend of mine built one and I flew it a few times...what a fun, nice flying, economical airplane. He did the raised turtledeck per the plans mentioned above and built a custom canopy frame and had a bubble blown for it. Sadly he crashed it and and eventually died from his injuries.
|
|

06-12-2011, 06:37 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: madison, wi
Posts: 8
|
|
Has anyone built a 3b/4/Rocket with an IO-375? Is it doable? Total green horn here. Be gentle.
|

06-12-2011, 10:41 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2011
Location: In my body
Posts: 13
|
|
OK, Here is what I believe will be the deciding factor of how I build this Rocket; The property that I am buying has an area that will allow me to build an 800 foot runway..800and one foot starts hitting a fence then runs into the neighbors barn. So actual usable surface is about 780 feet.
Runs in a north to south direction with a rise of about 6 feet from the start of the north end to the south.
Trees will have to be cut down at the north end and power lines will have to be buried to make this runway work.
I don't believe takeoff would be a problem downhill-south to north with any of the rocket options.
The landing seems to be what could be the problem.
Weather it is a HR-1 using the RV-3b platform 185 horse IOX-340s @approximately 250 pounds and a total weight of 775 pounds FP wood prop and advertised stall speed of 51 mph, (landing length by Van's of 350 feet) (30 gallon tanks),,,( I plan on using the 3 blade 151 CS series prop by Whirlwind)so that should help in the slow down
Or building the HR2 as a pilot only,no passenger, with the clipped RV-4 wings raised rear fastback and RV-4 tail feathers with the same engine prop selection as the HR-1 build.
(Front cowl and width will stay standard RV-3/4)
RV-4 is advertised to be able to land @ 300 feet with a 48 mph stall speed (of course with full length wings)
The advertised stall speed (by Harmon)of the HR2 is 55 mph. that is of course with the added weight of the IO-540 on the nose of the HR2 and empty weight of 1200 pounds,,I have not found any quotes of short strip landings.
I am leaning toward using the RV-4 as the platform for my build because of,
The stronger wing(and even stronger if clipped to HR2 length)(HRIII length is even shorter and advertised stall speed is even higher @ 58 mph)
Larger fuel tanks(42 gallons as apposed to the 30 gallons of the 3b)
Electric flaps and elevator options available on the -4 that is not available as option on -3
Maybe better sets of plans and more support from both the RV and HR2 community since there are many more builders out there then there are HR1 builders.
If I go with the RV-4 platform, single pilot only cockpit,raised rear fastback,250 pound IOX 340s engine,CS 3 blade whirlwind 151 prop(28 pounds)42 gallon tanks, clipped HR2 -4 wings and lots of practice on longer runways.
Am I going to be able to stop this plane on an 780 foot uphill, north to south asphalt runway????
Or will I have to leave the wings @ UN-clipped -4 length?
Thanks,
Geodfreid.
Last edited by rentiap : 06-13-2011 at 01:00 AM.
|

06-13-2011, 04:37 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,544
|
|
For this application you are going to need the longer wing. I hope you have a back up airport close to this strip as there will be times when it is not safe to land there. I am not a good enough pilot to take my rocket into an 800 foot runway.
__________________
Tom Martin RV1 pilot 4.6hours!
CPL & IFR rated
EVO F1 Rocket 1000 hours,
2010 SARL Rocket 100 race, average speed of 238.6 knots/274.6mph
RV4, RV7, RV10, two HRIIs and five F1 Rockets
RV14 Tail dragger
Fairlea Field
St.Thomas, Ontario Canada, CYQS
fairleafield@gmail.com
|

06-13-2011, 04:42 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
Posts: 7,840
|
|
X 2!
780'....  Trouble will find you easily enough. No point going looking for it
Best,
__________________
Pierre Smith
RV-10, 510 TT
RV6A (Sojourner) 180 HP, Catto 3 Bl (502Hrs), gone...and already missed
Air Tractor AT 502B PT 6-15 Sold
Air Tractor 402 PT-6-20 Sold
EAA Flight Advisor/CFI/Tech Counselor
Louisville, Ga
It's never skill or craftsmanship that completes airplanes, it's the will to do so,
Patrick Kenny, EAA 275132
Dues gladly paid!
|

06-13-2011, 05:39 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
Posts: 538
|
|
780' Get a Super Cub to take you to the airport your gonna keep your Rocket.
__________________
Anthony Johnston
Brit working in Zurich, Switzerland.
1500 hour pilot and ex instructor and examiner.
RV-4 s/n 4572 Emp Kit.
RV-3B s/n 11460 Emp Kit. (In storage).
Anthony's RV-4
|

06-14-2011, 01:43 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mount Vernon, IN
Posts: 1,270
|
|
I second the above comments. Our insurance rates are bad enough already... please don't!!!
While a Rocket will easily take off in that distance (on most days), you'll quickly find out what the fence is made of on most landings... or you'll quickly find out how to repair bent gear legs, cracked engine mounts, and propellers.
Not only does an 800' strip offer no room for error... it simply offers NO room. 
__________________
Vince Frazier
www.f1aircraft.com
F1 Rocket and F4 Raider components
1-888-F1AIRCRAFT (1-888-312-4727)
www.flyboyaccessories.com
RV and Rocket Accessories, Tailwheels, Tools, & More
1-888-8FLYBOY (1-888-835-9269)
F4 Raider - under construction
F1-H Rocket "Crazy Horse" - sold
RV-4 "Chief Pontiac" - sold in 1994, purchased in 2018
|

06-14-2011, 08:50 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: SF
Posts: 30
|
|
A) find a longer runway
B) Find another plane
|

06-15-2011, 05:49 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Tybee Island, GA
Posts: 664
|
|
You never told us you were trying to operate your Rocket from an aircraft carrier. Maybe arresting cables and a big tail hook needs to be incorporated
__________________
Mitch V.
Semi-Retired in Tybee Island GA
2007 MX2 Nigel Lamb EX RBAR MX2 (Current)
2020 MX2 New Kit Position (Sold at OSH to Team RV Member)
2009 Team Rocket F1 (Sold)
2008 MXS Green Slime"(Sold)
2007 MX2 Patches" (Sold)
1999 Giles 202 "Primal Fear/Perucho" (Sold)
1965 PA32-260 "God Bless America" (Sold)
2003 RV6 "Airhawk One" (Sold)
Last edited by mv031161 : 06-15-2011 at 08:06 AM.
|

06-15-2011, 07:28 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Vul, VA
Posts: 316
|
|
Hi Geofried,
You have an ambitious plan, and I hope it goes well for you.
What kind of flying experience do you have up to now?
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:14 AM.
|