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06-13-2011, 02:06 PM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,420
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Need a little help.
I am looking for someone in the Sacramento area with a RV 10 under construction.
I am looking for someone who has the fuse still opened up at the top cowl area, so I can get a set of templates for making insulation inserts to fit in the various odd shape pockets the angle bracing create.
Would also be nice to have the firewall forward not done, so I could also make a firewall template.
Ideal would be a slow build, with the firewall all braced, but not installed in the fuse, as in figure 2 on page 27-2.
Thanks in advance.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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06-13-2011, 07:03 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Dixon Ca
Posts: 91
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Sacramento RV
Mike I would love to help ya, but still working on slow build wings. I will be doing the slow build fus, also, so if you are not in a rush i will be glad to help ya.
When u going to fly down to the Nut Tree and take me for a ride in that thing. I will treat for ice cream at Fentons afterwords. Heck i will even help with gas. HEHE
john Cumins
40864 Wing top skins
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06-14-2011, 07:01 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Melbourne Florida
Posts: 111
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Maybe I Can Help
Mike,
My slow build is about at the point you described with the exception of my firewall being installed. I?m on section 41. However I am in Florida. I was just thinking this past weekend that I needed to accomplish the sidewall insulation while the access was still good. There are a couple of places in the sidewalls I have already closed, sidewall panels F-1080 and F-1081 which are already riveted on. I may or may not be able to find the templates for these. I think I tossed them.
So, when I get finished with my sidewall templates I could just send them to you. I used tyvek (home wrap) for the floor insulation templates. Worked well, should ship easy. Unless you just want to do the measurements yourself. I am an ex-finish carpenter now construction manager so I am pretty handy with the tape measure.
I take it you have decided that sidewall insulation would improve the comfort of your RV-10? Are you planning on insulation on the backside of the firewall? I am still up in the air about the firewall (front or back or both), but would be glad to do the templates. What about under the upper forward fuselage? I think it should be insulated. Can you still access that area?
Let me know.
Eulice Curington
RV-10 Fuselage #40596
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06-14-2011, 09:36 AM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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Thanks!!
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Originally Posted by ecurington
Are you planning on insulation on the backside of the firewall? I am still up in the air about the firewall (front or back or both), but would be glad to do the templates. What about under the upper forward fuselage? I think it should be insulated. Can you still access that area?
Let me know.
Eulice Curington
RV-10 Fuselage #40596
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Eulice, thanks for the offer.
I am looking to insulate the back side of firewall. And the front side as well.
I already have insulation on the rear of the firewall, but I am going to be taking it out.
Dan Horton did a burn test on the insulation I currently have installed, and it is just plane bad stuff.
The plane is already flying, so the area under the floorboards is not accessible, and upper cowl area is almost totally not accessible.
If you could make up a set of Tyvek templates for the firewall, one piece front, and all the misc shape pieces for the back, I would be in your debt for sure.
I will send you a PM with my mailing address.
Thanks again.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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06-14-2011, 09:40 AM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jc11378
When u going to fly down to the Nut Tree and take me for a ride in that thing. I will treat for ice cream at Fentons afterwords.
john Cumins
40864 Wing top skins
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John, sent a PM.
Fentons sounds good 
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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06-14-2011, 10:58 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fairfield, CA
Posts: 120
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can I come, can I come...
John, Mike,
Could I tag along to Fenton?s?? I can?t help any with you RV 10 Stuff, as I?m building a RV 7 in Fairfield (just on the edge of Vacaville) and would love to meet some local RVers. But definitely, don?t plan it around my ability to attend, but if it works out I?d love to meet you guys.
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Mike Mason 
Fairfield/Vacaville, CA
RV-7 QB Working on Wings, Fuselage & Sanity
VAF 1351
AOPA 04067557
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mgmason1911@gmail.com
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06-14-2011, 11:36 AM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,420
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Experimental Chaos
would love to meet some local RVers.
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First off, have you joined http://sacrvators.com/ ??
Second, sure it is fine if you are included when I come to see John.
Will let you know.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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06-14-2011, 02:12 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fairfield, CA
Posts: 120
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Wall flower
I have been a member of Sacramento RVators, but I think my membership has expired. There was some confusion, I had paid a couple of years in advance, then the move down here to Fairfield??bla?bla?bla, I only attended a couple of meetings, and typically RV everyone was friendly, but, given the choice of working on the plane or going to a meeting?.I?m probably a bit anti-social, or at the very least socially inept, luckily my wife makes up for many of my shortcomings!
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Mike Mason 
Fairfield/Vacaville, CA
RV-7 QB Working on Wings, Fuselage & Sanity
VAF 1351
AOPA 04067557
EAA 837577
mgmason1911@gmail.com
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06-14-2011, 10:56 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Denver
Posts: 564
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Mike,
I insulated almost everything from firewall to baggage bulkhead. Made my templates with a sheet of clear acetate(about 0.020" I think) placed on the outside of the fuslage. Just mark off the rivet lines for each piece, then add or subtract 3/8" to the edge, depending on which side of the rivet line the flange comes off. Quick, easy an accurate.
Jim Berry
RV10
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06-14-2011, 11:03 PM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,420
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N15JB
Mike,
I insulated almost everything from firewall to baggage bulkhead. Made my templates with a sheet of clear acetate(about 0.020" I think) placed on the outside of the fuslage. Just mark off the rivet lines for each piece, then add or subtract 3/8" to the edge, depending on which side of the rivet line the flange comes off. Quick, easy an accurate.
Jim Berry
RV10
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Jim, that is a good example of out of the box thinking.
I suspect there are folks out there going "wish I had thought of that"
Unfortunately, not going to work for my needs, as the firewall is just too full of stuff in the way.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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