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Old 06-08-2011, 09:04 PM
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I have seen even worse examples recently on a dusty, rock strewn ramp.
Ok, done with my peeve.
If that is the time and place I think it is, our plane has some very noticeable chips and many more small scratches, especially on the leading edges of the wing from that weekend.

As I dont fly my dads -7 in respects to landings and such, I dont do shutdowns, but he often does the turn while pulling mixture to cut off. Just as effective on asphalt and IMHO, it looks cool to

It works quite well. I found out the hard way to keep his hangar door closed until shutdown when he gets back from giving someone a ride and I am waiting at the hangar. I was picking up rags and other sail type items and the floor had a lot more dirt on it than before.

Be courteous out there. I know everyone would appreciate it.
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:55 PM
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Along that same line, when people are starting their plane for departure - and if they still have the tail pointed into the hangar I'm never afraid to literally walk out and push their tail 90 degrees, even if they are sitting in the plane! It also never ceases to amaze me that some people can't figure out that simply turning a different direction will also sometimes help a whole lot when leaving.

At least we're not in huge planes, some years ago in a previous life we had a DC-10 on the runup pad aimed the wrong way. The #2 eng literally sandblastd and blew the windows out of a whole pile of employees cars!

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Old 06-09-2011, 06:16 AM
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Oh yeah, this one raises my ire also.

A few years ago: Imagine about 10 picnic tables full of pancake eaters, on the grass next to a taxiway at a small town grass strip. Along comes a Piper 6 of some sort, taxis right by the tables, and does a turn. When I talked with an RVer who was also there witnessing this, he said "yep, same pilot blew trash into my hangar (at a different airport) recently".

Another: I had literally just finished a complete wax job on my RV in the hangar. The neighbor (with whom I had already had discussions about this same problem) taxis up in his Conquest jet prop, does a turn, fills the hangar with sand. The dumbbell has a 4-wheeler he uses to pull the plane out, so it would be simple to not do that last turn. I was close to pulling mine out, aiming the tail at his hangar and plane, and doing a full power run-up. Thankfully that plane is gone.
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Old 06-09-2011, 06:40 AM
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Don't get me started on helicopter pilots. Don
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Old 06-09-2011, 08:12 AM
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So, I may need to clarify this pet peeve.

I don?t, and never have, started my plane with it pointed at a hangar.
I don?t turn the plane during taxi when the prop wash will hit a hangar door.
I would never prop blast a person or a car.

BUT, I have and still do, start up in the tie down parking spot. I learned this from watching other pilots who do the same. In fact, I have never noticed a pilot pull the plane out to start up, unless it was to pull the plane to the fuel pump. Is this wrong? I want to be as courteous as I can, so If this is wrong, please correct my behavior.

But to be honest, If I did pull the plane out for startup, I would then be blocking the taxiway. And most times the tie down spot does not have planes or buildings behind it. Other times there are other planes in a ?T? configuration behind me. So when should I pull the plane out of the tie down spot for startup???

Flame if you want, but I am looking to be a nice pilot.
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Old 06-09-2011, 08:58 AM
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That is a huge pet peeve of mine as well since I'm on a grass strip. When people do that in front of my hangar, I walk out to greet them with a large broom (as they wonder what for)....they usually don't do it a 2nd time!

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Stein
Give them a small broom, it will take them longer to clean up!
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Old 06-09-2011, 09:26 AM
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BUT, I have and still do, start up in the tie down parking spot. I learned this from watching other pilots who do the same. In fact, I have never noticed a pilot pull the plane out to start up, unless it was to pull the plane to the fuel pump.
I must be the odd one then. Any time there is an airplane either behind or beside (at least that would be behind me during a turn) I always pull the airplane out of the parking spot and turn it parallel to the parking row (yes, I sometimes get some strange looks).

I was tought to do this very early in my pilot training at a flight school that just happened to be owned by my father using airplanes we had to maintain, so that may have had an influence on the policy. I have never yet been anywhere that this practice would create a hardship for other aircraft. The only time I deviate from this practice is when there is not another aircraft within several aircraft lengths of me.

There have been times I have had to get help pushing the airplane up a small rise or out of a hole (imagine how much power would be required to taxi out of that). I try always to be considerate of other people and be aware of the affect that my actions have on others.

You have to be careful what you learn from watching other pilots. It is other pilots that take off without enough fuel, that continue VFR into IMC, that fly into the ground, and engage in all sorts of other potentially hazardous practices.

Don't get me started on helicopters!
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Old 06-09-2011, 09:27 AM
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Actually, that's one of the reasons why I mounted mirrors on my rollbar. I can see my tail surfaces when I do control checks, AND see if there's anything/anyone behind me when I do my run-up.

More than once, I've taxied up behind a spam can at our airport who decides to do his run-up without checking to see what's behind him. I've learned to always taxi off to the side a bit since then.
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Old 06-09-2011, 09:31 AM
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I have a pet peeve on this forum that people "title" their individual posts, the "title" dialogue is there for creating threads, or private messages, not posts!

can I rant about that in this thread?
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Old 06-09-2011, 09:31 AM
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BUT, I have and still do, start up in the tie down parking spot. I learned this from watching other pilots who do the same. In fact, I have never noticed a pilot pull the plane out to start up, unless it was to pull the plane to the fuel pump. Is this wrong? I want to be as courteous as I can, so If this is wrong, please correct my behavior.
Same here. That's pretty routine on any GA ramp that I've ever been on. The only time I've seen aircraft pulled out and turned prior to startup is at Oshkosh where I beleive that habit is highly encouraged (probably at all major fly-ins too). It makes since when aircraft are tightly packed and there's tents and what not all over the place. However, on a typical GA ramp, I wouldn't bother unless circumstances dictated otherwise (ie parked in front of open hangar, at a fly-in with booths or tables in close proximity, etc.) I guess what I 'm trying to say is just take stock of your surroundings and exercise the golden rule lest you become THAT pilot.
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