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Old 05-07-2011, 05:19 AM
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Default Very well said!

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To those who say "We must each be our brother's keeper" I say..."let (s)he without sin cast the first stone."
I too, have been "visited" after someone thought I'd crashed, when from a distance, they couldn't tell that I was a crop-duster, dusting crops!

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Old 05-07-2011, 09:24 AM
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Default Met Towers

I realize y'all are talking about low passes at an airport, but in other safety threads I've seen here people have talked about going out in the boonies to get their low level thrills legally. So I thought this might be a good place to mention the debate going on in the low level operations community ( ag, ems, law enforcement to name a few ) about unmarked, unlit, 6"-8" diameter meteorology towers used to get wind measurements to see if the location is good for windmills. These towers are usually gray, skinny and are very difficult to see. They can be erected in less than a day and can be up to 199' feet tall. They have guy wires to support them that are also invisible. There is no requirement for notification to anybody when these towers go up. Earlier this year there was a fatality in Ca. where an ag plane ran into one of these towers. This link is to an article on these towers and shows a painted (aviation orange and white) tower, but many of them are primer gray.
http://avstop.com/march_2011/ntsb_ur...ion_towers.htm

So if you feel the need to go get a buzz fix in the boonies, just keep in mind that there might be something sticking up that you didn't count on, and that you won't see, and that no one has the responsibility to tell you is there.
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Old 05-07-2011, 09:53 AM
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That's an excellent point James,

We see these things popping up all over the place in my neck of the woods. We used to be able to fly for 20 miles in any direction right on the deck, but thanks to the windmills and these survey towers sprouting out of the desert like weeds, it is a real risk. That's why I essentially keep my low passes confined to my airport these days.

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Old 05-07-2011, 02:40 PM
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Default GPS towers are proliferating.

In farming areas, many GPS differential correction towers are going up so the farmers have 6" guidance for their auto-steer GPS following systems....an autopilot for a tractor, essentially, also under 200' so they're not required to be marked or lighted. I dodge them routinely while I'm spraying.

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Old 05-07-2011, 05:09 PM
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Default the air is good.....

I read this somewhere.....

"the air is good; stay away from the edges of the air....."

Sounds like a good idea to me.

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Old 05-09-2011, 11:57 AM
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Does "Buzz job" mean some kind of high speed low pass?

My main concern when flying low is birdstrike.
And I see high speed as a safety factor in case of a engine out situation down low.

Flutter or hitting obstacles should be a non issue.
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