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08-11-2008, 09:45 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MKE
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Originally Posted by N395V
I will continue to use experimental as a descriptor in my communications.
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OK, the pet peeve police will grant you an exemption due to your unique circumstance.
The rest of you flying garden vaiety RVs have no excuse, though.
On a serious note, have you considered using a more descriptive initial call up, like "Rocket 91TX, white low-wing, ......" This might eliminate some of the back and forth on the radio. Just a thought.
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RV-6, RLU-1 built & flying
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Milwaukee
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08-11-2008, 11:35 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Mendon South Carolina
Posts: 1,391
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I've actually thought of using Bearcat 91TX in the hopes most people would look for something shaped like an F8 with a round motor.
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08-11-2008, 12:58 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
Posts: 447
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"Experimental"
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Originally Posted by Kahuna
Does anyone know what the original intent of this op lims language was?
Did/Do tower controllers handle experimental planes differently?
Why the language in the op lims. There must be a reason for it.
Perhaps controllers pay extra attention to experimental planes?
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I believe this was to provide controllers options for special routing for "experimental Aircraft" around populated areas. I think this was a cause- effect case after an 80's fatal accident with ground casualties. But my long term memory is "fussy logic"....
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08-11-2008, 01:20 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Huskerland, USA
Posts: 5,862
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I think I'll call myself "Airforce 1",............. VAF of course. 
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RV-10 : In the hangar
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08-11-2008, 01:42 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,769
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geico266
I think I'll call myself "Airforce 1",............. VAF of course. 
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I believe that "Vans Airforce 1" should be reserved for Doug.
"Airforce 1" would probably not be a good call.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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06-17-2009, 02:41 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NC25
Posts: 3,508
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Our OpLims say we must identify ourselves as EXPERIMENTAL on INITIAL CALL to ATC. I use RV tail-number EXPERIMENTAL on ALL FIRST calls. I then use RV tail-number after that.
It does not mater if it is RV-3, 4, 6, 8, 9, or 10 as the stall speeds are all close. IMHO, Using EXPERIMANAL Tail-Number or EXPERIMENTAL Color is a very very very poor choice as the EXPERIMENTAL could be a very slow flying Kitfox, SX-300, or one of the FAST glass airplanes. Does not tell me anything about the speed capability of the airplane behind or infront of me.
I like to keep all radio communications as SHORT and INFORMATIVE as possible.
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NC25 RV-6 Flying
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Where is N157GS
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To most people, the sky is the limit.
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06-18-2009, 09:04 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,769
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YEP!
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Originally Posted by bigbill25
So, will a RV-12 built E-LSA, not E-AB, still have to state experimental on first contact with Tower/ATC?
--Bill
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Experimental is experimental! Your operating limitations will have the same statement as amateur-built.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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06-19-2009, 04:00 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Jackson, MS
Posts: 1,262
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Quote:
Originally Posted by allbee
I agree, I flew into spokane international, class c, and told them experimental, they wanted to know the type, I came back with rv7, they started calling me rv287rv after that.
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I was thinking about this earlier. When I contact a controller for the 1st time, it's goes something like this:
me: xyz approach, experimental 32ww
atc: experimental 32ww, xyz approach
me: 32ww is a rv7/g, 2 miles north abc, passing 1 point 9, would like flight following to abc
From then on, its always n32ww or rv32ww and I don't hear experimental again.
It would seem that you satisfiy the requirements. I guess I don't really think much it since the airport I fly out of is adjacent to class c airspace and almost every flight we are talking with them.
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Last edited by Webb : 06-19-2009 at 05:28 AM.
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06-19-2009, 04:23 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 704
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My experience with ATC has me contacting them now with "lex approach, rv 727bm with you at......." All other communication from ATC is always RV7BM or just 7BM......"could you make an immediate left turn on climbout past the tower....."
I'm with Webb here, RV is now in the FAA ATC data base. Identifying myself as RV up front just avoids additional clarification with additional radio chatter. ATC is aware of the speed of RV's so, my take is, they know what to expect out of you.
At uncontrolled I've just gone to RV 7BM.
Go ahead, slap me with a wet noodle 
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04-05-2011, 04:06 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 14
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ATC ID: "Experimental" vs "RV" or "Vans"
Has there been any discussion regarding how RV drivers identify themselves to ACT? My standard "Experimental 95RV" doesn't seem to provide the type of AC info that I expected it would - and at airports unfamiliar with my plane the controllers seldom know if they are dealing with a Lance air 4 or a Kitfox. I've heard other's ID themselves as "Lance air 123" or "Glass air 123" and was wondering if I too should provide more detail: "Experimental RV 95 Romeo Victor?" "Experimental Van's 95 Romeo Victor?" or just "RV / Van's 95 Romeo Victor?" Sounds like a mouth full...
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