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Old 04-04-2011, 02:25 PM
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Default Electronic Checklist? Memo Pad?

My EFIS (Dynon D-100) includes the ability to insert five menus, each menu can have five lists - for a total of 25 pages of information. Dynon suggests that these can be used for storing checklists, emergency procedures, radio frequencies, etc. With 200+ hours on my plane, I haven't put any information in these pages yet.

What do you keep in your EFIS?
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Old 04-04-2011, 05:07 PM
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War and Peace, for those long flights?
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:04 PM
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Hey Scott,
My MGL Voyagers have the same capability...but for some reason I can't break away from the paper checklist. I really want to, though! I've created checklists on my EFIS, but have yet to use them.
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:16 PM
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Hey Scott,
My MGL Voyagers have the same capability...but for some reason I can't break away from the paper checklist. I really want to, though! I've created checklists on my EFIS, but have yet to use them.
Yep, I am the same way------

And, I still look at the backup steam gauges first, but I am working on breaking that habit.
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:50 PM
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... I still look at the backup steam gauges first, but I am working on breaking that habit.
Me too! I failed miserably at breaking this habit until I physically covered the steam gauges with some of those practice partial-panel covers. Even then, it took a LOOONG time, and I even kept checking the plastic covered gages before the glass each time I looked inside. Old habits die SLOOOWLY.

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Old 04-04-2011, 08:24 PM
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Me too! I failed miserably at breaking this habit until I physically covered the steam gauges with some of those practice partial-panel covers. Even then, it took a LOOONG time, and I even kept checking the plastic covered gages before the glass each time I looked inside. Old habits die SLOOOWLY.

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True, specially for us old farts.......

But, it is nice to have them when I set the GRTs to 1. Map. and 2. Engine instrumentation.
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:44 PM
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Louise uses nothing but the electronic checklists on her Dynon's in the -6, but I still have a tough time adapting to them, even though we have the capability in the -8 (GRT's) and will in the -3 (G3X). I have used "intelligent" electronic checklists in aircraft that are fully integrated, and they are great - line items go away as you configure the aircraft for the appropriate phase of flight, and when th page is blank, you are ready to go. But with a simple text display, I find that the loss of the display real estate (to see the checklist) interferes with configuring things for flight, so unless I have a completely separate display for the checklist, I would rather use paper. I am much faster with paper checklists tan I am with electronic in my day job as well (two different vehicles with two different philosophies...).

Call me a Luddite I suppose...but I have adapted pretty well to all the other new technologies!

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Old 04-04-2011, 08:53 PM
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I'm all for the electronic checklists but I'd still keep a backup checklist somewhere perhaps... What if you lose your EFIS and need to take a quick peek at one for reference?

If you're a real gadget geek like me, you can put a backup one into your smartphone, ipad, ect... just a thought!
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My EFIS (Dynon D-100) includes the ability to insert five menus, each menu can have five lists - for a total of 25 pages of information. Dynon suggests that these can be used for storing checklists, emergency procedures, radio frequencies, etc. With 200+ hours on my plane, I haven't put any information in these pages yet.

What do you keep in your EFIS?
ON my AFS - use it all the time, each section on seperate page(POH Backup on board):

BEFORE STARTING ENGINE
W&B OK?
Gear unloaded / secure for Aerobatics?
Chocks / Tie Downs - REMOVED
Control Locks - REMOVED
Master Switch - Alt. Position
Flaps Raised - CHECK!
Canopy - LATCHED or at Taxi Position
Safety Harnesses - BUCKELED
Fuel Selector Valve - DESIRED TANK
Circuit Breakers - CHECK IN
Avionics - OFF
Cowl Oil Cooler Scoop - As REQ.
Brakes - Apply!

ENGINE STARTING
Mixture - RICH (Mixture ICO during Hot Start)
Prop - HIGH RPM
Master Switch - ON
Fuel Boost Pump - ON (1-3 Sec)
Throttle - OPEN 1/4"
Propeller Area - CLEAR
Mag Switch - ON - Elect. Ign. - ON
Stick Back - Starter - Engage
Oil Pressure - CHECK
Auto Pilot & GPS - ON
Radios - Transponder - Strobes - (Lights) - ON

BEFORE TAKEOFF 1/2
Brakes - Apply
Flight Controls - FREE & CORRECT
Elevator and Aileron Trim - NEUTRAL
Fuel Selector Valve - DESIRED TANK
Altimeter & EFIS - CORRECT PRESSURE
Mixture - RICH (below 3000ft)
Canopy - LATCHED
Throttle -- 1800 RPM
...Magnetos & E.I. - CHECK (200 max drop)
...Prop - CHECK OPERATION
Oil Cooler Scoop - Open

BEFORE TAKEOFF 2/2
...Engine Instruments - CHECK
...Throttle - IDLE
Radios - FREQ. SET
Fuel Boost Pump - ON
Transponder - CODE SET
Transponder - ALTITUDE
Canopy - LATCHED

NORMAL TAKEOFF
Flaps - 0 degrees
PROP - HIGH RPM
Throttle - FULL OPEN
Climb Speed - ___ KIAS

ENGINE FAILURE DURING FLIGHT
FLY THE AIRPLANE!
Airspeed - BEST GLIDE - ___ KIAS
Pick a landing Spot!
Fuel Boost Pump -- ON
Fuel Selector - SWITCH TANKS
Mixture - RICH - ALTERNATE AIR DOOR - Open
Ignition Switches - BOTH, LEFT, RIGHT
Transponder - 7700
Transmit MAYDAY - 121.5
ELT Armed
Harness - TIGHT!

Just Before Touchdown...
Shutdown Electrical - Ignition - Fuel - Mixture ICO

ENGINE FAILURE AFTER TAKEOFF
Prop - HIGH RPM
Mixture - IDLE CUT-OFF
Fuel Selector - OFF
Ignition Switches - OFF
Flaps - AS REQUIRED
FLY The Plane!
PICK A SPOT!
Safety Harness - Tight

Just Before Touchdown...
Shutdown Electrical - Ignition - Fuel - Mixture ICO

ENGINE FAILURE DURING TAKEOFF
Runway Remaining...
Throttle - IDLE
Brakes - APPLY
Flaps - UP
Mixture - IDLE CUT-OFF
Ignition Switch - OFF
Master Switch - OFF

Airborne - Out of Runway
PICK A SPOT! Land Nearly Straight Ahead.
FLY The Plane!
Safety Harness Tight

Just Before Touchdown...
Shutdown Electrical - Ignition - Fuel - Mixture ICO

EMERGENCY AIRSPEEDS
Engine Failure During Flight...
Flaps Up Speed - ___ KIAS
Maneuvering Speed (Va) - ___ KIAS
Maximum Glide - ___ KIAS

ENGINE FIRE GROUND
Cranking - CONTINUE STARTING ENGINE

ENGINE STARTS:
Throttle - OPEN approx 1/4

ENGINE FAILS TO START:
Throttle - FULL OPEN
Mixture - IDLE CUT-OFF
CONTINUE STARTING ENGINE
Fire Extinguisher - OBTAIN
Engine - SECURE

FIRE IN FLIGHT
ENGINE FIRE DURING FLIGHT:
Mixture - IDLE CUT-OFF
Fuel Selector - OFF
Master Switch - OFF
Vents/ Cabin Air/ Heat - OFF

ELECTRICAL FIRE DURING FLIGHT:
Master Switch - OFF
Avionics - OFF
Electrical - OFF
Vents/ Cabin Air/ Heat - OFF
Fire Extinguisher - ACTIVATE

FIRE IN FLIGHT CONT..

CABIN FIRE:
Master Switch - OFF
Vents/ Cabin Air/ Heat - OFF
Fire Extinguisher - ACTIVATE

WING FIRE
Nav Lights - OFF
Landing Light - OFF
Taxi Light - Off

ELECTRICAL / ALTERNATOR FAILURE
Avionics - OFF
Master Switch - OFF
Master Switch - ON
Bring Avionics and loads back on one item at a time

ALTERNATOR STILL OFF LINE:
Alt Field Breaker - RESET ONCE ONLY
E-Buss Switch - ON
Load Shed Power and Land ASAP
Monitor Alternator Output and Battery Voltage
ALTERNATOR STILL OFF LINE:
TURN OFF ALL NON-ESSENTIAL EQUIP

SHORT FIELD TAKEOFF
Flaps - FULL
Prop - HIGH RPM
Brakes - SET
Throttle - FULL OPEN
Mixture - RICH - Depending on Field Elevation
Brakes - RELEASE
Climb Speed - ___ KIAS

ENROUTE CLIMB
Airspeed - ___ - ___ KIAS
Throttle - 25 inHg
Prop - 2500 RPM
Fuel Boost Pump - OFF
Fuel Pressure - CHECK
Mixture - LEAN above 5000 ft
Adjust Oil Cooler Scoop as Needed

CRUISE
Throttle - 23 in Hg
Prop - 2300 RPM
Trim - ADJUST
LEAN 75 deg rich of peak or LOP

POST FLIGHT AFTER LANDING
Flaps - DOWN
Fuel Boost Pump - OFF
Transponder - STANDBY
Save EFIS / EMS Data if Needed
Close Oil Cooler Scoop as Needed

POST FLIGHT ENGINE SHUTDOWN
Avionics - OFF
Electrical - OFF
Throttle - IDLE
Prop - FULL FORWARD
Mixture - IDLE CUT-OFF
Mag & El.Ign. Switches - OFF
Strobe - OFF
Flaps - DOWN
Master Switch - OFF

POST FLIGHT SECURING AIRCRAFT
Wheel Chocks - INSTALL
Tie-Downs - INSTALL (as needed)
Pitot Tube Cover - INSTALL
Cockpit - CLEAN & SECURE
Master Switch - OFF
Fuel Computer - RESET AFTER FUELING
Install Control Locks - Bungee Cords

LANDING LIGHTS
Light Signals:
...Solid Green - CLEAR TO LAND
...Red/Green - USE EXTREME CAUTION
...Flash Red - UNSAFE DO NOT LAND
...Flash Green - RETURN FOR LANDING
...Red - GIVE WAY CONTINUE CIRCLE

PRE-LANDING CHECKLIST
Fuel Valve - Proper Tank
Slow to ___ KTS before downwind entry
Mixture Rich (or as needed for high density altitude)
Prop control - forward on downwind
Oil Cooler Door - Open for go around
20 degrees Flaps abeam the numbers
Slow to __ Kts. on Base - Flaps / Slip as needed
Slow to __ kts on Final
Fly the plane all the way to the hangar during taxi
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Old 04-04-2011, 09:46 PM
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Thanks Caveman! That's the kind of info I'm looking for.

Some time ago someone here mentioned that these planes are so easy to fly, there's almost no need for a checklist. I agree with that sentiment most of the time. But there's always going to be a time when it's good to have the checklist handy - such as a rushed departure, emergency situation, unfamiliar airport, etc...

I have a basic mantra that I go through in preparation for each phase of flight, but if I get thrown off that mantra, I want to have something solid to fall back on.

(PS - this thread is about Checklist and other data on your EFIS. If you want to start a discussion about usage of checklists, start your own thread! - uh oh - here come the flames!)
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