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Old 03-12-2011, 08:34 AM
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Default IPAD In-flight testing - Glare a problem?!?

All,

I recently was able to borrow and IPAD for testing, using both ForeFlight and IEFB from FlightGuide. The applications are GREAT, in fact, perfect for my purposes. The only issue is the glare on the screen, in my case it seems the charts are nearly unuseable, intensity if all the way up, especially with sun-glasses.

The questions are:

- are folks really finding the Ipad useable as a replacement for paper charts, or is it just a novelty (I REALLY like the Ipad), just a pragmatic question related to in-flight suitability

- has anyone found an anti-glare matte screen protector that they have found is suitable

Thanks!
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:42 AM
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Polarized sunglasses can cause one not to be able to read certain screens. I know in some EFIS equipped airplanes, polarized sunglasses make it nearly impossible to read the screen. I have found that true on some of the new phones too. Minor thought..


I just got a killer deal on an iPad so I too would like to see what people are doing to mitigate the glare. I live in AZ so that is important.
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:02 AM
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Default Ipad compromises

Screen brightness and reflectivity is definitely a down side to the Ipad, as the comercial for the Kindle highlights. I added a Krogger shade and placed a mount down low to compensate for this negetive, which is the only real down side to the otherwise game changing device IMHO.

I did try an anti glare film and was disapointed with the loss of clarity, so I removed it.
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Old 03-12-2011, 02:29 PM
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I find the ipad needs to be tilted up 15 to 20 degrees to be good as far as readability is concerned. If you lay it flat on your leg it is not good. Several knee boards for the ipad are now on the market...some of which tilt the ipad up at 15 degrees or so. I will be giving one of these a try soon. In the mean time I just use the autopilot and hold the ipad where I can read it.
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Old 03-12-2011, 02:35 PM
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Default IPad in flight

With a Koger shade I don't have readability problems with my IPad. If you use polarized lenses, you will as they affect the IPad screen just like they affect the $3,000+ Garmins.
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Old 03-12-2011, 03:49 PM
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I evaluated a friends iPad (he flys a C172) in sunlight yesterday. Indoors, its screen and my iPhone 3G look identical. It also is just as bright as my iPhone 3G in the sun. My iPhone is more readable in the direct sun because of it Anti-Glare screen protector. There was glare on his High Gloss screen protector. It was necessary to tilt the iPad with glossy screen protector to be able to read it.

IMHO, an anti-glare screen protector is a must for an iPad EFB.

I have LCD displays in my RV-6. I never wear polarized lens as they tend to make LCD displays unreadable. In other words, do not wear polarized sunglasses when you are going to use an iPad EFB.

From what I have seen so far, I will more than likely buy an iPad in the not to distance future.
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:36 AM
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Default IPAD in IFR

I've flown the iPAD in IFR using ForFlight. I don't like ForFlight's Low Altitude En route chart solution as you can't magnify it beyond 1:1. Also the flight plan line covers up the Victor airways numbers, and you can't read them. Their flight planning is really hard to use while in the air, especially if you just want to edit an existing flight plan. Try tacking out a weigh point in the middle of the flight plan!
I've also used Flight Soft Pro (RMS Technologies) on a tablet. Much easier to use....
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:15 PM
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Default Taking out a way point in Foreflight

Disclaimer- I like Foreflight.
To take out a way point is not a problem. If you touch the way point you want removed, a box comes up that has several options. One of those is "Delete from route".

The magenta line does obscure the airway numbers but I still can read them most of the time without any ambiguity as to what they are.
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:15 PM
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Default IPAD test

Concern has been raised about the IPAD and hii altitude.....My wife and I did a flight in the 7 from Marana (KAVQ) direct to Loveland Fort Collins(KFNL) 560 NMiles at 17500 ft, suckin o2 in 3.6 hrs. The IPAD worked just fine using flightguide and never lost the screen or had to reboot. We were in sunshine and the cabin temp was comfy the whole trip...sometime next week we will start off for sun &fun and we will try the fourflight (SP) app... The only trouble I have had with the IPAD was a flight from loveland to KCAG when temps were below zero. It went down and would not come back up untill it been in the house an hour or more...


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Old 03-17-2011, 07:25 PM
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Concern has been raised about the IPAD and high altitude.....
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I'm not sure the altitude issue was ever a real problem, merely a reflection of Apple having not tested it at higher altitudes.

The recent approval of iPads (1, not 2, yet...) for use as EFB replacements for some Charter 135 operations by the FAA included a pretty drastic test.

Jeppesen arranged for a FL510 rapid decompression test, which the iPad passed. If the thing will keep working after rapidly moving to 51,000' I think it should be OK at the 0-20K range we are concerned with in RVs.

Link: http://www.jettimes.com/faa-approval...-for-industry/


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