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Old 02-21-2011, 07:22 AM
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Default Billet Fuel Filter Source?

I found a thread about 6 months ago that had a link to a really nice billet aluminum fuel filter with a cleanable SS screen. It was shaped different that the standard Earls or Summit filters and had a flange on the bottom for mounting. I can not for the life of me find it. IIRC, It was a Wick's Aircraft part but I am unable to find it there. Can anyone steer me in the right direction? I have decided to use a filter for each wing under the seat and these would fit real nice.
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Old 02-21-2011, 08:13 AM
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Default Midwest Motorsports Inc

Here is an option...

I bought two in-line filters at http://www.midwestmotorsportsinc.com.

Search for 4050-06-1. I bought mine in blue to match the other fittings. Great quality. The end unscrews and you can clean the filter. Has an o-ring seal. And the best part is the cost was $24.66.
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:39 AM
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OK,,,finally found it here: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...s/micron10.php
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:37 PM
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Default WOW Look at the price

I am using two so the difference is roughly $50 vs $200.
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:49 PM
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Pictures are a challenge to me, but I guess I need the practice. There is a AA battery in the picture for size comparison.

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Old 02-21-2011, 04:53 PM
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Default Not all filters are created equal

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Here is an option...

I bought two in-line filters at http://www.midwestmotorsportsinc.com.

Search for 4050-06-1. I bought mine in blue to match the other fittings. Great quality. The end unscrews and you can clean the filter. Has an o-ring seal. And the best part is the cost was $24.66.
Does anyone know how much filter area this filter has??? My Internet search turned up NO technical data on the above mentioned fuel filter. Even the manufacturer's web site has no technical data on it. See

http://www.redhorseperformance.com/parts4/index.htm

The fuel filter mentioned earlier in this thread, sold by Aircraft Spruce has only 6 square inches of filter area in it. That's not a lot. Less filter area means that the filter could become clogged more easily. The FlowEzy 4ILA and slightly larger 6ILA [used by AFP and also sold by Vans] both have 20 square inches of filter area. See

http://198.170.245.162/racingMODEL_4ILA.html

The FlowEzy units also give you a large choice of screen filtration sizes from 595 microns to 10 microns in stainless steel.

Granted, more frequent inspection and cleaning of a small area filter will help alleviate most [but not all] issues here. Just an FYI for those comparing filters and going only on price.
RV-9A builder Chris Heitman's company, Pegasus Auto Racing Supply carries the 4ILA model [with Viton O-rings for those using auto fuel]. See

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecID=3469

Just something to bear in mind about filters. Size is also an issue. Smaller physical size causes more internal turbulence, meaning less flow. FlowEzy's 6ILA uses the same size filter element, as the smaller 4ILA. The 4ILA flows 5 GPM while the 6ILA flows 6 GPM, so size has an effect on the filter's restriction to the mechanical fuel pump. Remember that your fuel filter is on the suction side of your fuel pumps. The filter elements which provide tighter filtration [10 or 25 microns versus 74 or 149 microns] also further restrict the fuel system. The Bendix [now Precision AirMotive] systems only require approximately 80 microns to protect the system's components. AFP requires filtration to a minimum of 125 microns per page 5, 1-10 of their operating manual. FYI 25 microns is approximately .001"

Charlie Kuss

Last edited by chaskuss : 02-23-2011 at 12:18 PM. Reason: Added AFP filtration requirements and a clarificatio regarding the 4ILA and 6ILA filters
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:36 PM
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EA...6ERL/?rtype=10

I've been running these filters in my RV for 11 years with no problems. It uses an easy to clean sintered bronze element with a lot of area. As I recall you don't want anything under 30 microns as its too restrictive.
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:42 PM
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Default fuel filters

Fuel filters are not an area where I want to try to save some money. I'm using the aeromotive since it was the best I could find. Here is a description of their filter element.

http://aeromotiveinc.com/2010/01/fuel-filtration/

Here's a pic of my install:

http://www.rv8.ch/article.php/20110220184232728
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:25 PM
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I'm also a fan of the Flowezy, I run the 4ILA with 74 micron screen.
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Old 02-23-2011, 05:21 AM
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Default Red Horse Performance Fuel Filters

I received a response to the email I sent to Red Horse Performance [fuel filters that Dean purchased for $24.66 each]. These filters have only 2.15 square inches of filter area! With a filter area that small, a single piece of ProSeal [which could break off in the fuel tank] or an act of vandalism to your fuel tanks, could easily plug this filter. This is truly a case of "you get what you pay for". If anyone wants to see the reply email I received from Red Horse Performance, contact me via email or private message.
Mickey, thanks for the informative post regarding fuel filters. That link to Aeromotive's web site helps to visualize how these filters can differ internally.
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Last edited by chaskuss : 02-23-2011 at 05:26 AM. Reason: corrected price of RHP fuel filter
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