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10-22-2010, 03:38 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,769
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Build what you want. Those of us with tip-ups would not change a thing. And I'm sure that those with sliders are the same.
Been flying my T-U for over 17 years. Never had wet avionics.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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10-22-2010, 03:51 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: WA
Posts: 988
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Tip up and water
My tip up seals completely when it is down but when you open it the water on the canopy runs down and will drip in behind the panel... some have fabricated skirts between the panel and sub-panel to catch and direct the water that look promising.
Also the join between the tip up and the fixed window alows a bit of seepage when washing the plane and could use a silicon bead to fully seal but I am holding off until after paint.
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RV7 powered by a lycoming thunderbolt IO-390
turning a whirlwind HRT prop
with more hours flying than building... 2,430 on the hobbs!
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10-22-2010, 04:32 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: KSLC
Posts: 4,021
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The roll bar is to protect you if a bird smashes through the canopy. I don't even notice mine. So just install a slider, a constant speed prop, and the biggest engine possible!
L.Adamson --- RV6A
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10-22-2010, 05:47 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 645
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Tip Up vs. Slider
My first RV-6A was a Tip Up. LIving in the South West I decided to go with the Slider for better summer time taxi air. The only other negative thing I disliked about the Tip Up was on windy days you had to make sure someone got the airplane tied down before you go off the brakes, opened the canopy and tried to get out (or face into the wind) because the tip up canopy acted like a sail and would start turning the airplane downwind and walking away.
I installed the tip up slider option to give better access to the baggage compartment on the slider.
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Lubbock, TX
Proud to be a Veteran
N710RV - RV-10 Sold
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01-10-2011, 10:44 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: lancaster,tx.
Posts: 74
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slider vs. tip-up
Seems to me that access to avionics is much easier on the tip-up.
John
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01-20-2011, 07:09 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: (2OK2) OK City, OK
Posts: 381
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tip up
The biggest pain with the slider is having to tweak the sliding frame to line up with your airframe. I wasted over 50 hrs. attempting to get mine to line up per the plans and never could and was stopped when it started to crack from working too much. I ended up buying a new one and invited our EAA Tech. counselor over to show me how it was done. After two hours of tweaking we had a 95% solution which should work well when I SIKA glue the plexi on next summer...
Doug Lomheim
90116; Mazda 13B, FWF
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01-21-2011, 08:56 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Vul, VA
Posts: 316
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Well, I saw the greatest issue with the slider was, as everyone pointed out, access to behind the panel. I didn't want to give up my slider, so I made access panels on the top of the fuselage in front of the windshield. I have complete access to the area behind my instruments now. BTW, I am building an F1- this might have no bearing on the Vans aircraft.....
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02-09-2011, 03:13 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Greeley, Colorado
Posts: 199
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Slider
You can make a case for either option. Wouldn't it be a drag if we were all the same? Those tip up people might not have to work on the radios so often if they weren't dripping water on the stack from rain or dew. What I don't like about entry to the TUs is the unfinished look of the under side of the canopy until you close the lid. The visibility is, however, breath taking in the TU once under way but it's a toasty at times on the ground..
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John D. Artz, EAA 71811, 100+ Young Eagle flts
Adopted Dave's 6A
MXL Ultralight, only bleeding after 3 landings
Scorpion Two Helicopter, big mistake
PA-28 and 210E Centurion
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02-09-2011, 03:37 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Hillsboro, OR
Posts: 75
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Tip Sideways
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Originally Posted by Mel
A side-ways tipper is not practical on a side-by-side aircraft.
The Zenair 601 series (before the XL model) tipped to the side. The hinges allowed it to tip either way. But then you have to open one side, let the passenger get in, then close it and open it from the other side for the pilot to enter. If it were to open only one way then someone will have to climb across.
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The Cozy MKIV is the same width as a RV7 and has a tip sideways canopy. Works fine but you do have to crawl over the pilot side for pax and it has a substantial frame to keep it "square". I don't think it would be entirely impractical but would be a lot of work to be the first.
That said, It would be very easy to build a removable fiberglass drip tray on tip ups that would catch the water and direct it over the longeron.
Ryan
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Hillsboro, OR
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09-04-2011, 03:57 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: PSL FL
Posts: 6
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Jettison
I read here that the slider cannot open in flight because of air pressure. Is this true? I also read here that the tip up is jettisonable. If that's the case, then as a former Pitts and Extra driver I would prefer the tip up, though I have never had to bail but would hate to have the option denied to me by the design. As much as I would probably prefer the slider for the main reasons of living in the Florida heat and wind, I would have to go with jettisonable canopy.
Or does the Meske mod for the slider make it jettisonable?
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