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01-17-2011, 10:13 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Cheap, Safe, Legal VFR Charts
Hello!
I am getting ready to get the new Airchart WAC atlas. It has been a great way to get all the sectionals I need for a year of safe, legal XC RV trips.
Does anybody have any thing better at the same or better price point? ($109)
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Pete
Amateur Plane - RV-9A N789PH - 2350+ Hrs
Amateur Radio - KD0CVN
Doggies Delivered - 25+
St. Paul, MN
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01-17-2011, 11:41 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
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Pete, I've played with www.fltplan.org...
...for a 530 mile trip to Indiana and simply zoomed in 'til I could read that page and printed it....then move the map by dragging it print again. It took 6 sheets of 8 X 10 paper...FREE!...and it's current...you can do sectionals or low altitude charts.
Plus, you can get weather overlaid,
Then again, my iPad does even better
Best,
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RV6A (Sojourner) 180 HP, Catto 3 Bl (502Hrs), gone...and already missed
Air Tractor AT 502B PT 6-15 Sold
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01-17-2011, 11:47 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MN
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Thanks Pierre!
BTW, that was one dapper young guy in uniform you posted earlier!
I have done the same with runwayfinder (back in the day...) and it works great as a way to follow the trip on my lap - I even add text boxes with frequencies and notes to make it a one stop-shop for info.
I use this but keep the WAC atlas behind the seat in case I get checked. My guess it that this is one of those never ending battle questions, but are the downloaded and printed charts legal if you get checked?
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Pete
Amateur Plane - RV-9A N789PH - 2350+ Hrs
Amateur Radio - KD0CVN
Doggies Delivered - 25+
St. Paul, MN
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01-17-2011, 12:05 PM
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been here awhile
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 4,300
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Originally Posted by petehowell
BTW, that was one dapper young guy in uniform you posted earlier!
I have done the same with runwayfinder (back in the day...) and it works great as a way to follow the trip on my lap - I even add text boxes with frequencies and notes to make it a one stop-shop for info.
I use this but keep the WAC atlas behind the seat in case I get checked. My guess it that this is one of those never ending battle questions, but are the downloaded and printed charts legal if you get checked?
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Pete, I don't think you are required to have "legal" charts for VFR flights, only whatever info is needed for the safe conclusion of the flight. Prudence may dictate a current set, however.
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01-17-2011, 12:42 PM
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Location: MN
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Hi Sam,
Yep - I guess prudence is what gets me to pony up for the chart book now that the Missus likes to travel far and wide in the RV......
Thanks for the replies guys!
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Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
Pete, I don't think you are required to have "legal" charts for VFR flights, only whatever info is needed for the safe conclusion of the flight. Prudence may dictate a current set, however.
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Cheers,
Pete
Amateur Plane - RV-9A N789PH - 2350+ Hrs
Amateur Radio - KD0CVN
Doggies Delivered - 25+
St. Paul, MN
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01-17-2011, 01:21 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Locust, NC
Posts: 440
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Airchart Subscription
Pete,
For years I flew my 14 state sales territory using Airchart WACs, Low Altitude IFR charts, and insturment approaches. Always in the plane, always current, always in order, everything right there, nothing to forget. Sometimes the boss called and asked if I could run over to New York, Arkansas or Ohio to look at something, sure, no problem.
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01-17-2011, 01:29 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MN
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Hiya Dave
Pretty much my thoughts, too. I'll bring lunch in a bag for a few weeks to offset the cost and be happy all around.
Thanks for the input!
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Originally Posted by dlloyd3
Pete,
For years I flew my 14 state sales territory using Airchart WACs, Low Altitude IFR charts, and insturment approaches. Always in the plane, always current, always in order, everything right there, nothing to forget. Sometimes the boss called and asked if I could run over to New York, Arkansas or Ohio to look at something, sure, no problem.
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Cheers,
Pete
Amateur Plane - RV-9A N789PH - 2350+ Hrs
Amateur Radio - KD0CVN
Doggies Delivered - 25+
St. Paul, MN
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01-17-2011, 02:58 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
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If you are an EAA member you can use their version of Aeroplanner - it's also FREE.
It has the ability to print AAA-like trip-tik maps, which is probably better than printing random sections of charts of Flightplan.
For flying around your home area, the new EZFlightChart book is handy, and contains all of the terminal area charts that are in the area covered by the particular sectional.
https://www.ezflightchart.com/Phoeni...hoenix_vfr.htm
Not so good if you want to draw a long straight line for a cross-country though... 
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Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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01-17-2011, 03:22 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by petehowell
Hello!
I am getting ready to get the new Airchart WAC atlas. It has been a great way to get all the sectionals I need for a year of safe, legal XC RV trips.
Does anybody have any thing better at the same or better price point? ($109)
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The caveat with these Airchart atlases is the updates only come in long hand form with very vague descriptions of them. If, for example, class B airspace changes you will receive a description of the change in long-hand. Maybe legal, but IMHO not very helpful unless you're really good at visualizing trigonometry.
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01-17-2011, 03:48 PM
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unqualified unfluencer
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Highland Village, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by petehowell
Hello! I am getting ready to get the new Airchart WAC atlas. It has been a great way to get all the sectionals I need for a year of safe, legal XC RV trips. Does anybody have any thing better at the same or better price point? ($109)
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Assuming you have an iPad (or netbook of some kind).....
What I do:
1. Download all WAC charts ( free) from HERE (sectionals also from HERE).
2. Copy them to my iPad and read them with Goodreader ( $2.99).
3. Throw the iPad in my flight bag.
Note: I also copy them to my 16GB Swiss Army Knife/Memory Stick ( more) in case I'm in front of a computer with a huge monitor and a free USB port.
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Last edited by DeltaRomeo : 01-17-2011 at 04:48 PM.
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