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01-05-2011, 02:14 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Delaware, OH (KDLZ)
Posts: 4,196
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Originally Posted by JoeB
I am currently flying a perfectly good 1974 PA-28/180.......
The RV has awesome support, but for whatever reason the construction seems a little more intimidating.
since I am new to the Builder community Any and all inputs are helpful I just want to be well educated before i end up too far over my head.
thanks
JOE
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As a former PA28/180 owner and currently building a RV-10, I'm highly biased on the choices.
Since you are in Omaha, I would highly recommend talking with Bob Condrey. Bob is in Omaha and just sold his first RV-10 (somebody made him an offer he couldn't refuse at OSH) and is in the process of building another one. There's nothing like seeing a project in person to get perspective.
Trust me, as a first time builder, if I can figure things out and do a good job, just about anyone can.
Feel free to PM or email if you have specific questions.
bob
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01-05-2011, 02:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Omaha NE
Posts: 85
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more questions. :)
Thank you everyone for the responses,
Is there anyone in the Omaha/Lincoln NE area that wouldn't mind letting see there -10, I have yet to see on in person,
I am curious how the cabin size compare to the Piper I am flying.
I currently have a 74 PA-28 151/180
I am of the same mindset as everyone else on here,
The numbers for the Foxtrot are tempting,
but there is somthing to be said about 7000 RV's and 300 flying
After seeing this website and spending some time on it I am starting to see the MASSIVE support base for a builder. vs. the 20-40 folks who have built with the other company.
The Foxtrot might be a fine Aircraft, but knowing me, it will be good to be able to get online at 10 PM post a question and have 20 answers by 1030 here..........
I am thinknig I might be a RV builder in the near future.......
for me since time is important, as I am gone a fair amount of time with my line of work......
how long is the build been averaging people??
is it best to buy the kits one at a time, or all at once...
how much time do the quick builds actually save?
does quick build rob you of any building experince? (for repair cert sake)
not too sure about the shipping things to the phillipines for assembly, if it was done in USA I would be more willing to quick build. not a fan of outsourcing, even if its cheaper.
anyways thanks
JOE
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01-05-2011, 02:27 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Omaha NE
Posts: 85
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whoops
ekk.
I just read my last post.....
Proofreading is in order ..
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01-05-2011, 02:33 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Omaha NE
Posts: 85
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contact Bob C?
does anyone have Bob's Contact information
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thanks
JOE
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01-05-2011, 02:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Clarion, Pennsylvania
Posts: 550
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Joe, I will echo Ron and point out that building the ten is a big job and takes serious time. I have nine months of concerted work into the fuselage alone, with a month or so to go. Three years to finish the first three kits. The quickbuild route would help some, but don't underestimate the time required for a first time builder. I read of ones being built fast, but that just doesn't jive with the reality of my experiences.
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Last edited by aturner : 01-06-2011 at 07:16 AM.
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01-05-2011, 03:17 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lake Country, B.C. Canada
Posts: 2,416
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go to both factories
I have similar reservations about stuff built offshore.
..until you think that even a Boeing or Cessna has a TON of it's parts made elsewhere, it's just ASSEMBLED here.
Just an idea......
book a $99 plane ticket to Florida, and see the customer completion centre for yourself. Leave your wallet at home! These guys are in the business of selling, remember? (Ask youself why there is a customer completion centre if these are such an easy 1000 hour build!!!) Then come home and build a little fibreglas boat. See how you like that.
Do the same trip to Oregon, get a feel for the operation etc.
Borrow a rivet gun, and/or get the practice kit. Do you like metal? ( ok the -10 has a lot of fibreglas too!)
Imagine you finish, and then want to sell the plane in a couple of years. Which will give you the best return?
If you do buy the Tango, be sure to get ALL the parts in your hands at the same time, just in case they go awol! It's happened at least a million times in the airplane business!
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Perry Y.
RV-9a - SOLD!....
Lake Country, BC
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01-05-2011, 03:21 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Belvidere, IL
Posts: 169
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You can't go wrong with an RV-10. That said... The Foxtrot is also probably a nice airplane. I haven't flown one, but I'm a composites guru and I think highly of their kit quality.
I'd recommend flying both to decide which you would prefer to own. Then get some hands-on experience with metal and fiberglass to decide which you would like to spend thousands of hours building.
What is the claimed build time of the Foxtrot? Generally speaking, composite kits are more expensive to buy but quicker to build. However, they take a lot longer to sand/fill and paint.
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01-05-2011, 04:07 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Pleasant Prairie,Wisconsin
Posts: 67
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how long to build?
Joe, I have the 10th RV-10 kit sold.
It took me 3yrs. and 10 months to build my plane by myself with only my wife helping to buck rivets when two people were required or other two person tasks. I made several modifications also that took lots of time to work through. I worked a full time job as well. Get the quick build wings and fuselage if possible as it will save you a year on the slowbuild. Visit My RV-10.com for a great site on everything you need to know about the 10.
Don Orrick
N410JA
420hrs
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01-05-2011, 04:26 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bellevue, NE
Posts: 524
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Joe,
Just sent you a PM with contact info. As Bob L. said, I built and sold one RV-10 and am in the process of building another. I should be able to answer just about any questions you've got (and I've got some cold beer in the fridge...).
Bob (in Omaha)
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01-05-2011, 04:26 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Granbury Texas
Posts: 1,136
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First, friends don't let friends fly plastic airplanes. Seriously I would be very interested in the utility of the aircraft based on wing design. Many of the high end aircraft have very fast takeoff and landing speeds requiring lots of runway. Rv's including the 10 have always had exceptional performance envelopes. That's what got me interested in RVs a dozen or so years back.
Pat
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