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Old 01-04-2011, 08:54 AM
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Default 2nd Class Medical - when is it needed?

The recent 3rd class medical thread got me to thinking about this. When is a 2nd Class Medical really required?

When I first got my Commercial Certificate about 6 years ago, I renewed my Medical as a 2nd Class - just sort of planning for a future "just in case".

A few years back, my AME discovered a medical condition that required an annual review (i.e my medical was issued with a 1 year expiration). Since I was going for a medical every year, I kept renewing at the 2nd Class level.

The 1 year restriction was removed during my last renewal, so now I'm back to a normal 2nd Class for my age (good for 1 yr as a 2nd + 1 yr as a 3rd).

So back to my question at the beginning. What kind of operations require pilots to have a 2nd class medical?
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:01 AM
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The recent 3rd class medical thread got me to thinking about this. When is a 2nd Class Medical really required?

When I first got my Commercial Certificate about 6 years ago, I renewed my Medical as a 2nd Class - just sort of planning for a future "just in case".

A few years back, my AME discovered a medical condition that required an annual review (i.e my medical was issued with a 1 year expiration). Since I was going for a medical every year, I kept renewing at the 2nd Class level.

The 1 year restriction was removed during my last renewal, so now I'm back to a normal 2nd Class for my age (good for 1 yr as a 2nd + 1 yr as a 3rd).

So back to my question at the beginning. What kind of operations require pilots to have a 2nd class medical?
You need a 2nd class if you're getting paid to fly.- Excercising the priveleges of your commercial certificate.

Otherwsie your 3rd is good to go.

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Old 01-04-2011, 11:32 AM
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Default What Dave said...

..I'm both a paid CFI and a paid ag pilot...both requiring 2nd class.

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Old 01-04-2011, 12:02 PM
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Default 2nd class medical

2nd class medical isn't required for a CFI. Yes, you can still get paid.

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...ctLookup/61.23 (see table at bottom)

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...ectLookup/61.3

http://www.aopa.org/asf/publications/inst_reports2.cfm?article=4674
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Old 01-04-2011, 01:38 PM
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2nd class medical isn't required for a CFI. Yes, you can still get paid.
Yes, with some important restrictions. As stated in the AOPA article, "You are a teacher, not a pilot" in this case. Simply, that means no primary instruction, the pilot receiving the instruction has to be qualified to fly the airplane. And, you cannot act as a safety pilot in IMC or with the PIC under the hood, because that makes you a "required crewmember."

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Old 01-04-2011, 01:57 PM
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That's if you are instructing with no medical.

Sec. 61.23 Medical certificates: Requirement and duration.
A third-class medical certificate: a recreational pilot certificate, a private pilot certificate, a flight instructor certificate (when acting as pilot in command or a required pilot flight crewmember in operations other than glider or balloon)...
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Old 01-04-2011, 03:49 PM
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That's if you are instructing with no medical.

Sec. 61.23 Medical certificates: Requirement and duration.
A third-class medical certificate: a recreational pilot certificate, a private pilot certificate, a flight instructor certificate (when acting as pilot in command or a required pilot flight crewmember in operations other than glider or balloon)...
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