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12-17-2010, 07:01 AM
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ASA????
Really???? -- basically boycott ASA because Stenbock's other business, aviation video production, is used by ASA (not a Stenbock company) to produce training videos? I don't like what Flightprep has done and I understand the the desire to hit back at Stenbock in some fashion, but I think that is extreme and I can't support that as a course of action.
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12-17-2010, 07:01 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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They make it easy
FlightPrep sends out several FlightPrep Insider e-mail newsletters and the very last line makes it easy to voice your opinion and desires. There is a "Remove" button placed there to remove you from their mailing list. Nice feature.
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Seattle
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12-17-2010, 07:43 AM
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Location: West Plains, MO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auburntsts
Really???? -- basically boycott ASA because Stenbock's other business, aviation video production, is used by ASA (not a Stenbock company) to produce training videos? I don't like what Flightprep has done and I understand the the desire to hit back at Stenbock in some fashion, but I think that is extreme and I can't support that as a course of action.
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I have seen it mentioned, and believed, that ASA was a sister company to FlightPrep. That is my question, as I think many are under the same impression.
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12-17-2010, 09:03 AM
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Location: Austinville, Alabama
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RF memorial
I suggest we don't let the memory of RunwayFinder die.
Rather than shirts or buttons that badmouth FlightPrep, why not add to our VAF signatures something like:
"I remember RunwayFinder"
or
"Former RunwayFinder user"
or
"Never Forget RunwayFinder"
What a week...with Dave's RunwayFinder woes and just yesterday Chad's identity theft, wonder what next week will bring? Hopefully clecoes and rivets under the tree!
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Don Hull
RV-7 Wings
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it is a change that goes on, deep and permanent, in the ideas of living." Miriam Beard
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12-17-2010, 09:57 AM
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Location: NC25
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Originally Posted by BrentHumphreys
Quick question. I contacted Sporty's to ask them to stop carrying ASA products. The response was that the companies are not related.
I know that Stenbeck is an author with many products published by ASA, but is ASA directly affiliated with Stenbeck & Everson?
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I thought ASA was owned by Stenbock. Here is what ASA web site says:
In November, 1976, Joe Cucchiari purchased the company. ?Aviation Supplies and Academics? replaced Aviation Seminars of America as the name to go with the ASA acronym, and company goals were changed to include production of books, cassette courses and training materials. The company was incorporated in 1977. In 1981, Joe Finelli joined the organization, bringing 20 years experience in printing and publishing with him. Publishing has since become the principal course the company has taken.
http://www.asa2fly.com/ASA-HQ-C70_category.aspx
Stenbock and his company do appear in the ASA training videos and a LARGE FlightPrep sign is seen in the background of every classroom.
Maybe it is time for someone to dig more into the corporate structure of Aviation Supplies & Academics, Inc.
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12-17-2010, 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rv7boy
What a week...with Dave's RunwayFinder woes and just yesterday Chad's identity theft, wonder what next week will bring? Hopefully clecoes and rivets under the tree!
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I just hope someone hasn't already patented being an identity theft victim or Chad may get sued 
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12-17-2010, 11:23 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rv7boy
What a week...with Dave's RunwayFinder woes and just yesterday Chad's identity theft, wonder what next week will bring? Hopefully clecoes and rivets under the tree!
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I'm all for that!!
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Originally Posted by Capflyer
I just hope someone hasn't already patented being an identity theft victim or Chad may get sued 
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Don't give anybody any ideas here...  
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12-17-2010, 11:57 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lockhart, TX
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I just posted on their Facebook page that I will never do business with them.
In my industry another company did the same thing but they simply wiped out all the competition. Subsequently prices went up fivefold.
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12-17-2010, 12:03 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lockhart, TX
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Originally Posted by DeltaRomeo
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Yes! Well said!
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12-17-2010, 02:09 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Dallas, TX (ADS)
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Originally Posted by AlphaCharlieBravo
I just got off the phone with Fred Boyns, the CFO of ASA in WA State. I just wanted to go to the source to end all the speculation and innuendo surrounding Roger Stenbocks connection to the company. He is NOT an owner, but simply one of the many and varied authors and has contributed a total of 6 items to the over 185 items ASA has available. I let him know that I have enjoyed their products in the past and will continue to support them in the future. With his permission I am posting this.
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Good to know. I will soften my line about ASA. However, ASA should still be aware of the business practices of its suppliers and the potential negative implications.
TODR
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