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12-13-2010, 09:48 PM
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Mine was sent!
I just sent my e-mail as well. Companies like Flightprep need to consider what is best for aviation and how to grow it. Suing companies that provide a great service for free is not a step in the right direction which is why they get added to the black list.
The patent agents at the patent office don't take the time to really understand if something is new and novel. Then if a patent is issued a judge will never overturn a patent because they don't want to be the referee. It is a crazy system.
I explained that unless they publicly apologize to runwayfinder.com allowing them to continue their operation at no cost, they might as well not show up at Oshkosh as it will not be fun for them. But we will have fun time if they do!
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12-13-2010, 10:30 PM
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Update
News from FlightPrep. Not the best news. The word temporary is not great.
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FlightPrep grants RunwayFinder temporary license
Although we believe RunwayFinder infringes on our patent, we also believe it is in the best interests of pilots to have RunwayFinder as an operational website. Accordingly, we have offered to grant a free-license to RunwayFinder to operate its website during this negotiation phase our legal dispute. We are not asking RunwayFinder to shut down and in-fact are offering them a temporary free-pass at our technology in hopes that this gesture of goodwill will better enable both RunwayFinder and FlightPrep to constructively work toward a mutually beneficial long-term solution.
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12-13-2010, 10:44 PM
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I just had a thought....
We need someone with connections who can economically print T-Shirts and the shirt donations can assist RunwayFinder (and the future targets) with legal fees to fight this nonsense.
Follow me on the shirt idea...
1) Brightly colored shirts.
2) Clearly stating that pilots should boycott ASA, FlightPrep, etc. They need to be available before SnF and Oshkosh. Imagine a sea of brightly colored shirts walking the Oshkosh fields and isles with bold print saying "Boycott ASA and Flightprep".
I'd even wear it to every aviation event I attend between now and then.
Phil
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12-14-2010, 05:34 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Oklahoma City
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
I just had a thought....
They need to be available before SnF and Oshkosh. Imagine a sea of brightly colored shirts walking the Oshkosh fields and isles with bold print saying "Boycott ASA and Flightprep".
Phil
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I wonder if AOPA needs to be contacted also. AOPA and the its Safety Foundation pass out FAR/AIM books printed by ASA at the flight instructor refreshers and I bet there is a bunch of other product that comes from ASA. If AOPA were to find other sources, this would also speek volumes.
I believe the FP vs RunwayFinder IS A SAFETY PROBLEM. Is AOPA serious about safety?
My 2 cents
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12-14-2010, 05:52 AM
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Location: Texas
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AOPA
I am cancelling my AOPA subscription as well. They should be leading this fight against the software patent laws. Aren't they a lobby in D.C.? Obviously, for $500,000 plus a year, Fuller has his priorities set differently than mine.
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12-14-2010, 05:59 AM
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Dang, I guess I'll have to shut down our dinky little trip planner on our EAA Chapter website:
I don't see how FlightPrep will survive the actions they have taken. They done ticked off the wrong set of folks.
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12-14-2010, 06:35 AM
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RunwayFinder Shuts Down
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Specializing in RV Condition Inspections, Maintenance, Avionics Upgrades
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12-14-2010, 06:49 AM
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Location: Blacksburg, VA
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I am fuming right now; There is more on Runway Finder's blog, http://bit.ly/fR2reJ.
RunwayFinder doesn't use a singe bit of code developed by FlightPrep. They just did a better job of it. Unfortunately, this probably is not the last great resource that we'll lose.
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12-14-2010, 06:55 AM
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You know it'd be one thing if Flight Prep was actually any good. I downloaded it and realized it is a POS and promptly uninstalled it.
I used RunwayFinder frequently. It was simple AND FUNCTIONAL!
I have never cared much for ASA stuff either. And yes, I am a member of VAF, EAA and AOPA and I will make my voice heard at each location.
I don't recommend you bail out on AOPA. We do need our voice (though albeit small) heard there.
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12-14-2010, 07:01 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: London
Posts: 167
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FlightPrep v RunwayFinder is not a copyright issue
FlightPrep v RunwayFinder is not a business issue
FlightPrep v RunwayFinder is not a safety issue
FlightPrep v RunwayFinder is a cyber bullying issue
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