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Old 12-11-2010, 09:34 AM
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See http://blog.runwayfinder.com/2010/12...going-offline/

Appears that the power of the internet brought on a significant load of negativity to FlightPrep! Keep in mind that RunwayFinder was built and owned by RV-7 builder Dave Parsons (and a really nice airplane it is), so with shallow pockets to support a defense, he had no choice but to shut down. Apparently, there's an agreement forming to allow RWF to stay up!

Go Dave!
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Old 12-11-2010, 10:09 AM
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What's the betting we will see FlightPrep adverts on Runway Finder?
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Old 12-11-2010, 11:34 AM
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FlightPrep and ASA are both owned by Stenbock. ASA has a lot of training stuff and books out on the market.

I'm in the IT world where this is a fairly common tactic...and I don't like it. (Even if FlighPrep is working within the system as designed, it doesn't mean its a good business decision or that we have to like it.) As for patent law, the concept that an idea can be novel merely by moving it to a new substrate...sigh. ie. patent XXX...on the Internet!

So... yeah, I'll avoid ASA too. (They also do GoldenEagle that you can get from CSC DUATS. Note, Flightprep/Stenbock are not DUATS.)
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:34 PM
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Yes, I will knock on their door, if they dare go after my fav, which is ta-daaaa... http://www.weathermeister.com/

YMMV


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Old 12-11-2010, 12:36 PM
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Include in the club pilots such as myself, a kit builder of another type of aircraft (yes I know, blasphemy) that participates in these forums because of the immense value of information that translates out to any type of aircraft. I too have vented my dislike of these abuses of respectable businesses and my intention of never allowing a single dime of mine to weigh down their pockets.
I'm truly glad that DR has the "voice" to put weight into the promise.


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Old 12-12-2010, 03:35 PM
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BTW, I disagree with the "evil lawyers" comments, they are only playing the game as it is presented. The rules of this particular game need to be changed.
Just wait, the day will come when you are treated unjustly, then have to forefit everything because you ran out of money first. When that day comes you will eat those words and have a new view.
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:29 PM
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In Europe if you sue a person and fail to prevail (win) you have to pay the lawyer fees of the defendant. Here it is not the case unless the judge orders it which they rarely do. As a result the person with less money usually blinks first and gives up, whether they are right or wrong. Thats why we have so many law suits here.
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:32 PM
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In Europe if you sue a person and fail to prevail (win) you have to pay the lawyer fees of the defendant. Here it is not the case unless the judge orders it which they rarely do. As a result the person with less money usually blinks first and gives up, whether they are right or wrong. Thats why we have so many law suits here.
I believe the loser pays the fees in Alabama. It is a state thing.
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:32 PM
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In Europe if you sue a person and fail to prevail (win) you have to pay the lawyer fees of the defendant. Here it is not the case unless the judge orders it which they rarely do. As a result the person with less money usually blinks first and gives up, whether they are right or wrong. Thats why we have so many law suits here.

Exactly....
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:42 AM
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Yup, every industry in this country is suffering under the dead weight of the current legal system. And I do hold the lawyers as a whole responsible because they are all 3 branches of government (where is the balance?). They keep the system in place through a set of legal and illegal kickbacks. sigh

One of the things that irks me about the Flight Prep issue (besides what everyone else already mentioned) is that they developed most of their code under a tax-payer funded contract as part of the golden eagle project. That program and all its code should be open source!
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