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12-08-2010, 12:06 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boulder, CO
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Your Own Fueling Operation
Since a number of you are planning to fuel your own plane with your own equipment, this might be of interest. These are the rules for doing it at my home airport, KLMO, Longmont, CO.
Perhaps if your local authorities are hassling you, you can offer this to them as a means of approving it.
The rules are, paraphrasing a bit,
1. You need a permit, which the airport manager provides.
2. You'll have to give the manager a complete description of the operation and your equipment.
3. You'll need to follow the National Fire Prevention Association manual, Standard 407, Standard for Aircraft Fuel Servicing. The airport manager can give you this.
4. If you spill fuel or cause a hazardous condition, you've got to tell the manager. And you're responsible for paying clean-up costs.
5. You need to have a 20-BC fire extinguisher on hand.
6. The city fire department or the airport manager have the authority to suspend operations if you're not in compliance.
7. You can only fuel your own aircraft or a rental. You can't sell fuel to someone else.
8. The city has a "fuel flowage fee" that the City Council sets, and you'll have to report the fuel you dispensed and pay the fee quarterly.
Dave
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12-08-2010, 04:33 PM
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Have you thought about moving? 
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12-08-2010, 05:55 PM
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There's a much easier solution. Pull your plane out of the hangar, and fuel it by hand from 10-gallon containers that you take from the back of your car and return there when empty. Close your car when you're done. Don't ask permission, don't tell anyone you're doing it, and don't make a scene about it. In other words, stay under the radar.
All assuming, of course, that you don't have some blatantly obvious signage, or a rental contract, that explicitly states such activities are verboten, of course...
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12-08-2010, 06:03 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Marietta, Ga.
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Fueling/refueling
..I second Larry's idea...
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12-08-2010, 06:06 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: La Feria Texas
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I worry more about static electricity sparks. A friend carries fuel in a plastic can to his plane and pours it in. Metal cans are outta sight expensive any more, but without a metal can and a ground wire, I just don't feel safe. Am I being overly cautious?
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12-08-2010, 06:13 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Rock Hill, SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Paule
Since a number of you are planning to fuel your own plane with your own equipment, this might be of interest. These are the rules for doing it at my home airport, KLMO, Longmont, CO.
Perhaps if your local authorities are hassling you, you can offer this to them as a means of approving it.
The rules are, paraphrasing a bit,
1. You need a permit, which the airport manager provides.
2. You'll have to give the manager a complete description of the operation and your equipment.
3. You'll need to follow the National Fire Prevention Association manual, Standard 407, Standard for Aircraft Fuel Servicing. The airport manager can give you this.
4. If you spill fuel or cause a hazardous condition, you've got to tell the manager. And you're responsible for paying clean-up costs.
5. You need to have a 20-BC fire extinguisher on hand.
6. The city fire department or the airport manager have the authority to suspend operations if you're not in compliance.
7. You can only fuel your own aircraft or a rental. You can't sell fuel to someone else.
8. The city has a "fuel flowage fee" that the City Council sets, and you'll have to report the fuel you dispensed and pay the fee quarterly.
Dave
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Does the airport get federal funds? If so you may want to look at FAA Advisory Circular 150/5190-6.
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12-08-2010, 06:46 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JHines
Does the airport get federal funds? If so you may want to look at FAA Advisory Circular 150/5190-6.
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I bet the Federal Advisory Circular does not over-ride this one...
National Fire Prevention Association manual, Standard 407, Standard for Aircraft Fuel Servicing
It probably even calls it out... 
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12-08-2010, 08:13 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Napa, Calif
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Too many rules. Be fire safe and responsible, but forget those rules. Our airport wanted us to report any spill, even if it was a couple of drops, to them and call the fire department. We pointed out that it is a crime to call 911 for non emergency situations. This is the last we heard.
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12-08-2010, 08:52 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boulder, CO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JHines
Does the airport get federal funds? If so you may want to look at FAA Advisory Circular 150/5190-6.
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This AC says that the airport can establish reasonable rules. I don't have an issue with these. In fact, I posted them so that if someone has encountered difficulty getting their local authorities off their back, they could point to these as both a precedent and a potential path for approval.
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12-08-2010, 09:17 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Davis, CA, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Paule
8. The city has a "fuel flowage fee" that the City Council sets, and you'll have to report the fuel you dispensed and pay the fee quarterly.
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How much is this?
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