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11-02-2010, 11:48 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Woodinville, WA
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Mike,
The 15,000 FT, 175KT limit is a TSO limit, not something we came up with. Certification requires a certain amount of output power if the aircraft is above 15K FT or 175 kts. We sell both because the amplifier to meet the higher power costs more and thus we felt it made sense to pass on the lower priced unit to aircraft that can use it.
If you NEVER exceed these either because the aircraft isn't capable or because you set these limits as an operating limitation, then you can use the less expensive model. But if you want to have the option to go above 15K, you need the more expensive one.
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11-02-2010, 02:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: England
Posts: 1,087
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Originally Posted by dynonsupport
... if you want to have the option to go above 15K, you need the more expensive one.
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Although that is exactly right, from the regulatory point of view, the practical answer is that no-one will ever know if you have the lower powered (cheaper) version and occasionally go above 15K' - it will keep working and you will have a few $$ for extra gas!
Pete
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11-02-2010, 10:41 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: St-Jerome,Quebec,Canada
Posts: 1,125
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Arinc-429
Robert & Lance
Thank you for the info, it's appreciated.
Robert, I've got a King KLX-35A installed in the panel, could this GPS work with the Arinc or does it have to be only a WASS GPS?
I hooked up the display to an aircraft battery tonight and the unit does powered up enough to go to the page containing the software version then it turns itself off...Could be the battery or something else...any idea???
Also, do I need to hook up the ADHARS if I only wanna play with it??
Lance, that's good info to know, I may end up connecting it to the Skyview..
Thanks again
Bruno
rv4@videotron.ca
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11-03-2010, 04:12 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Shallotte NC
Posts: 594
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Xponder
Will the Dynon transponders interface with the D-100 gear, and if not, are there plans to interface it with the legacy equipment in the near future??
Thanks,
Chris
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RV9A 90970 N614RV
Sold to nice folks in Texas and badly missed.
RV9 in progress
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11-03-2010, 06:37 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Uberaba, MG, Brazil
Posts: 122
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Dear Robert (Dynon Support)
I have a 2x 10" display, 2 adahars, AP, GPS ans AP setup. I also have a Garmin 695 driving the AP as well as a Zaon XRX interfacing with the 695. Once I update to 2.6 will traffic now shown on the 695 be automatically shown on skyview? Will I need to rewire, even though I will not install the dynon transponder (already have a a tx on panel)?
Thank you
Moura
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11-03-2010, 09:02 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
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However, if I understand...
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Originally Posted by penguin
Although that is exactly right, from the regulatory point of view, the practical answer is that no-one will ever know if you have the lower powered (cheaper) version and occasionally go above 15K' - it will keep working and you will have a few $$ for extra gas!
Pete
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...it correctly, the communications with the ground stations should be a little better with the higher power transponder, even below 15,000 ft.
This might make a difference out in the mountainous Western states.
Can someone confirm this?
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EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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11-03-2010, 09:36 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kentucky Lakes area in KY
Posts: 947
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One Stop Shopping With Dynon
This is all really nice, but there is still that big hole in the system that is very expensive to fill. The way I understand it, you are going to, eventually, need a TSO-C146a WAAS GPS. That's a panel mounted GPS, like a GNS 400. That's a $6K plus item! Why can't the the GPS that is built into the Skyview fill that ADS-B requirement, now that Dynon's mode S xponder is available?
Tom
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11-03-2010, 09:56 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: santa barbara, CA
Posts: 1,682
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Originally Posted by DFlyer
Traffic alerts will show up on SkyView?s moving map and synthetic vision displays using standard TCAS 1 symbols, identifying the location, severity of threat, distance, vertical separation and heading of any aircraft within the traffic system range. Pilots will have immediate situational awareness of traffic that they can easily track.
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I am not a Dynon user, but am curious how traffic alerts would show up on a synthetic vision display. More specifically, how is traffic that is BEHIND you shown on a display that is looking in front of you?
erich
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11-03-2010, 10:16 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Victoria, Canada
Posts: 2,251
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Originally Posted by KRviator
I'm probably asking a really dumb question here, but can you have a NavWorx ADS-B box and a Zaon XRX talking to the SkyView system at the same time to cover both radar and ADS-B traffic?
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I've looked at this. This is primarily a software issue rather than a hardware issue, I think.
Ideally, we would like the three sources of electronic traffic integrated: TIS-A from the transponder, TIS-B from a UAT (NavWorx ADS600-B) and virtual TIS-A from a Zaon or Monroy passive traffic monitor. This provides a graceful transition of traffic sources:
-The Zaon/Monroy will work with all transponders that are illuminated by radar today.
-The TIS-A will work in several metro areas that support it today until phased out by TIS-B
-The TIS-B will (eventually) replace TIS-A (future) and minimize the need for passive traffic.
Note: It will still be useful to have passive traffic monitors for trans-border operations. Canada has not announced any plans for a full ADS-B rollout.
It sure would be nice if NavWorx would incorporate passive (Mode A/C) monitoring in their device (suck in the capability of the Zaon/Monroy boxes).
Finally, it sure would be much nicer if Dynon built or licensed a UAT. Their Transponder is nice, but the Mode-S out/TIS-A in does not provide much of a benefit compared to a UAT, with the full implementatioin of ADS-B providing TIS-B out, TIS-B in and FIS-B (weather).
The above may be acronym soup to most: The short story is: keep your powder dry! Don't spend a lot of money investing in ADS-B technology until this is all sorted out. I expect some interesting announcements over the next year.
Vern
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11-03-2010, 10:31 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
Posts: 5,145
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Originally Posted by vlittle
Finally, it sure would be much nicer if Dynon built or licensed a UAT. Their Transponder is nice, but the Mode-S out/TIS-A in does not provide much of a benefit compared to a UAT, with the full implementatioin of ADS-B providing TIS-B out, TIS-B in and FIS-B (weather).
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Agreed. This is one thing that would really help out, both for those of us using Dynon, and for Dynon selling more units.
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Originally Posted by todehnal
This is all really nice, but there is still that big hole in the system that is very expensive to fill. The way I understand it, you are going to, eventually, need a TSO-C146a WAAS GPS. That's a panel mounted GPS, like a GNS 400. That's a $6K plus item! Why can't the the GPS that is built into the Skyview fill that ADS-B requirement, now that Dynon's mode S xponder is available?
Tom
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For the simple reason you already stated - the regs require the TSO'd GPS. That requires lots of expensive testing and that requires money and time. Personally I'm planning on Dynon screens with a 430W, and a UAT from SOMEBODY (hint hint Dynon...)
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Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now.
Last edited by airguy : 11-03-2010 at 10:34 AM.
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