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Old 09-11-2010, 02:04 PM
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Default He was challenged...

...by a jealous friend of both of us, who was also a Private pilot. The Skyhawk owner had already checked on the regs, regarding doing photography for pay.

As far as pipeline patrol/ pogy piloting/powerline patrol in your experimental...well, a lot of it depends, I suppose, how close to the line you like to play...kinda like questionable tax deductions...as long as you're not checked, is it OK if you get away with it?

For you furriners a Pogy pilot is one who looks for schools of fish and then directs the fishing boats there.

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Old 09-11-2010, 11:15 PM
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I swear, I was just educating myself on the pipeline routing...

just kidding
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Old 09-12-2010, 04:57 AM
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Default It Ain't a Foul Unless the Ref Blows His Whistle?

As far as pipeline patrol/ pogy piloting/powerline patrol in your experimental...well, a lot of it depends, I suppose, how close to the line you like to play...kinda like questionable tax deductions...as long as you're not checked, is it OK if you get away with it?

Pierre:
While the trend in this country seems to move more toward "Basketball Mentality", the FAA is an entirely different matter. Here, we're subject to Administrative rather than Civil Law, and the phrase "Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't really come into play. If I'm going to err, it will be in the direction that is most likely to keep me flying.
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Old 09-12-2010, 12:53 PM
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Does anyone know of a DPE that will give a checkride in a -8 only for a commercial rating. My plan is build a -8, build taildragger time, then someday get into cropdusting....
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Old 09-12-2010, 02:24 PM
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The Skyhawk owner had already checked on the regs, regarding doing photography for pay.
Pierre,

Do you know what or how he checked this? I have a fantasy about doing aerial photographyl, but currently have a PPL.
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Old 09-12-2010, 02:36 PM
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Pierre,

Do you know what or how he checked this? I have a fantasy about doing aerial photographyl, but currently have a PPL.
FAR 91.501 describes allowed usage under Part 91. You'll need a commercial pilot's license, but the aircraft itself is not a commercial endeavor. Many of the corporate aircraft in the U.S. today operate under this rule. They can be used for business, but they can't "be the business".
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Old 09-12-2010, 04:01 PM
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Default FAR 91.501

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FAR 91.501 describes allowed usage under Part 91. You'll need a commercial pilot's license, but the aircraft itself is not a commercial endeavor. Many of the corporate aircraft in the U.S. today operate under this rule. They can be used for business, but they can't "be the business".
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Subpart F 91.501 Large and Turbine-Powered Multiengine Airplanes and Fractional Ownership Program Aircraft.

This section covers operators like NetJets.

For the purpose of this thread, you might want to read FAR 61.113

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Old 09-12-2010, 05:22 PM
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Default Thanks John

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Sorry, close, but...
Subpart F 91.501 Large and Turbine-Powered Multiengine Airplanes and Fractional Ownership Program Aircraft.

This section covers operators like NetJets.

For the purpose of this thread, you might want to read FAR 61.113

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Old 09-12-2010, 07:48 PM
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Sorry, close, but...
Subpart F 91.501 Large and Turbine-Powered Multiengine Airplanes and Fractional Ownership Program Aircraft.

This section covers operators like NetJets.

For the purpose of this thread, you might want to read FAR 61.113

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...what the pilot can do, not what the plane is licensed/registered to do...

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Old 09-13-2010, 05:30 AM
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Default He read the regs, Tom....

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Pierre,

Do you know what or how he checked this? I have a fantasy about doing aerial photographyl, but currently have a PPL.
...and I don't know if he asked the FAA....perhaps don't want to open a can of worms.

BTW...he only has a PPL as well,

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