MGL Avionics - new RF products at Osh

[Rainier Lamers]

Originally Posted by Canadian_JOY

Rainier - once again, you're leading the way. These look excellent!

If I may I'll throw in a wish list in terms of system architecture. I went with a Dynon EFIS some time ago before MGL had adequate representation here in Canada. Given the popularity of Dynon EFIS products I don't imagine I'm the only one in this boat. That is to say, I don't think I'm the only guy out there who wants to use an MGL radio but doesn't want to have to replace his Dynon EFIS in order to use the MGL radio.

You don't have to replace anything. Any of our VHF radios understands both the SL30 as well as SL40 protocol and this has become an industry standard. But these protocols only handle setting up of frequencies.
In order to fully remote control our radios (including the existing V10) another protocol is used which we have placed into the public domain. This is used to set volume, squelch and other things plus obtain information on the current radio status (for example signal strength, currently active frequencies etc).

With this in mind it is my wish to see the following:
V20 - tuneable from the R6, as well as being able to use the R6 as a full VOR/LOC/GS indicator

Yes, that is standard. You can tick that one off your list.

V20 - outputs in SL30 format so the LNAV/VNAV pointers on the Dynon can display V20 nav data. I don't mind having to purchase an R6 in order to get OBS functionality. I can find space for a 2 1/4" instrument far more easily than I can put in Dynon's HS34 module.

Again, yes. The V20 fills in the missing bits in the SL30 protocol so if you have a V15 as well, the combination looks just like a real SL30.
If the EFIS is not able to control these items (other than frequency setting), you will need two R6 control heads. It is possible to use one, but that is clumsy (in any case the heads are very cheap).

V6 - I really, really want this radio to keep the VOGAD intercom. From what I heard in the noisy Oshkosh vendor hall its performance was excellent, the best intercom I've heard to date.

Yes of course, the VOGAD is the best thing about the radio, why would we ditch it ?

V6, R6 etc... Backlighting dimmable from a central aircraft dimmer system, rather than having to dim each "box" independantly. If the software controls dimming then allow the software to read an analog voltage input (master dimmer input) and then allow the user to manually offset the brightness to allow the user to achieve uniform backlighting levels across the various instruments in the panel.

No dimming. The displays backlights are always on but at a level that is suitable for night use. During daylight, the displays don't need a backlight as they are reflective so you don't even see that the backlight is on.

OK, I know that Oshkosh is like Christmas in July, so that's my Christmas wish list! Hope you and MGL have a terrific show, and safe travels there and back.

Unfortunately I'm not in the U.S. this year (maybe next year), I have too much work on my desk. We do have Les Manchip at our booth this year, he is responsible for much of the hardware design on the radios (I designed the original protoype and do all of the software, Les takes over from there).

Rainier
CEO MGL Avionics

[Canadian_JOY]

Thanks for the prompt and thorough response, Rainier! Looks like my shopping list for the moment is going to consist of a V20 and R6 for Nav, with a V6 as my 2nd comm. Yup, I think I can find space for all that in my existing panel, but I might have to use some other MGL singles to combine oil temp, pressure and tachometer to free up the extra holes in the panel.

Oh boy, there goes the budget again! ;-)

[Mouser]

If you had both remote products (a V15 COM and a V20 NAV), could you control both from a single R6 display? How about if there was a DPDT or 3PDT switch beneath it to switch inputs between the two remote devices?

I know, I'm being stingy with my panel space... but I need that space for my dual Odysseys. :-D Still, if I lost the EFIS in flight for some reason, I'd like a backup to be able to use the COM and NAV, but at minimal panel usage.

[GrayHawk]

Can you provide more details of the V15 intercom at this time. Might save me from buying a GMA320.

Thanks

[Rainier Lamers]

Originally Posted by GrayHawk

Can you provide more details of the V15 intercom at this time. Might save me from buying a GMA320.

Thanks

Two circuit intercom with 4 microphone inputs (each independent), stereo music input, aux audio input (usualy used for EFIS voice prompts etc), mobile phone connection via bluetooth (not built in, plug in "extra" - to make certification easier).
Two circuit means that you could seperate pilot and passengers completely and each would effectively have their own intercom (these can be joined of course).
Also hookup of two radios if needed so you have the "main" radio able to "see" the receive of a second radio and routing of microphone signals to that second radio if you want to use it for TX.

We are looking to make a simple audio panel as well due to popular demand, but needs to be small so it will likely be in 2.1/4" format. This is mainly to facilitate easy swithcing over between two radios.

Rainier

[kristoffon]

Originally Posted by Rainier Lamers

Two circuit means that you could seperate pilot and passengers completely and each would effectively have their own intercom (these can be joined of course).

This looks pretty good.

Can passenger and pilot each have their phone operating independantly via bluetooth?

[breister]

Here's a really dumb question:

If you have a Garmin x96 handheld, can that be used to set the frequencies on both the Comm and Nav radios?

[Rainier Lamers]

Originally Posted by kristoffon

This looks pretty good.

Can passenger and pilot each have their phone operating independantly via bluetooth?

It would work with any phone that you have "paired". This is controlled by the phone so you could have many phones using the link (but only one phone at a time).

Rainier

[Rainier Lamers]

Originally Posted by breister

Here's a really dumb question:

If you have a Garmin x96 handheld, can that be used to set the frequencies on both the Comm and Nav radios?

Well, I don't know.
You could use anything that currently can control a SL30 or SL40 but I am not sure if the hand helds have that capability...

Rainier

[Brantel]

Hey Rainier,

Any updates on the V20?

This was asked above but I don't see an answer: Can you use a V20 & V15 with a single R6?

If you can, what is the target pricing for a R6, V15 & V20 combo?