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Old 08-05-2010, 07:31 PM
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Just a note of caution..........

Ever wonder how a little water gets in the bottom of your mower's gas can?

I'm not sure that mixing water with gas is a good thing, at least for airplanes. Gas can hold up to a tea spoon of water per gallon in solution (without ethanol) and release it when it gets cold. So you use water to rid the fuel of ethanol (yes, this will work, but.....) and add water to the gas that will separate when the fuel gets cool / cold at altitude. This can be an issue for mogas (or 100LL) in the fall and everyone using it needs to be aware of possible water contamination during cold weather. Use only fresh fuel and sump those tanks before every flight!

JMHO.

Just to confirm ethanol cannot be transported in the pipelines (too corrosive to old pipes) and must be added to the fuel at the distribution center. Ethanol is now metered very closely (depending on the equipment) where as a few years ago it was "dump and pray" you were close to 10%. In the old days 5-15% was not uncommon. You may be able to buy "no ethanol" fuel, but the minimums are usually 500 gallons. Call around and talk to the bulk fuel delivery companies in your area. Also, call farm fuel suppliers in your area. Here they will deliver 300 gallon mins, but if I go there I can get 100 gallons at a time, no ethanol. Obviously, this will vary from state to state, but it is worth the call. You may need to invest in a 100 gallon tank, but it is an investment that will pay back very quickly. You will need to become VERY anal about storeing your aviation fuel, note the dual filter set up on mine, and I sump the tank once a week. Before I fill the plane I run 3-4 gallons back into the tank to clear the hoses of possible contamination, I replace the filters, and hoses once a year. You'll have to spend a few buck to maintain your equipment, but that is nothing new.



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Old 08-05-2010, 07:32 PM
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http://pure-gas.org/
Go to this websight to find pure gas. There are others also if you get to checking around

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Old 08-06-2010, 09:37 AM
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Just a note of caution..........
Another note of caution... some states have strict regulations on hauling large amounts of gasoline without certified tanks and commercial permits/licenses. I seem to remember reading about some hapless boat owner, I think from Florida, that was arrested and charged with a felony crime for hauling a couple hundred gallons in an unapproved tank to his boat.
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Old 08-06-2010, 01:09 PM
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It seems the Peoples Republic of Oregon has seen fit to sell ethanol free high octane gas at the pump. My recollection is that ethanol is added at the distribution site. If one can get to these locations can we purchase ethanol free gas? I seem to recall there is an airport at El Paso that sells mogas ethanol free as they buy from a local refinery.
red carpet in bend next to Bofa and taco bell has eth free, i think it was 3.75 just a couple days ago. i've heard there are some other places, oh the powell butte store has it. i think there are some in redmond also
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:11 PM
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Thanks for the website vector. I have added our airport.... McPherson KS, KMPR to the list. We have 87 octane, ethanol free. The price has been steady at $3.60/gal for about four months. I personally test every delivery from our wholesaler and run it in my RV4.
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:30 PM
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110 gallons is the max without having a hazmat license.
If you buy a fuel tank for the back of a pickup like I do there all built for 110 gallons.
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:46 PM
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110 gallons is the max without having a hazmat license.
If you buy a fuel tank for the back of a pickup like I do there all built for 110 gallons.
Vern
My tank is a 100 gallon diesel tank. No issues for over 10 years.
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