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Old 06-05-2010, 10:33 PM
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Not a bad idea. It was my uncle who added a bit of final persuasion when I too, was on the fence about this for months. He spent his career in the U.S. Airforce beginning at the end of WWII. He said to go the nosewheel. He said that it solved many of the problems that Airforce pilots had encountered over the years.

Now, it does seem obvious that the tail wheel RV's appear to be easier to land and manage in cross winds than numerous other tail wheel models. Yet, I do know of two local aircraft, an RV6 & F1 that lost it on landing and did some major damage. And it's still obvious that tail wheel models do limit forward visibility. That has been proven in the recent past. The final blow to my thought pattern, was when the Pitt's S2B that I was taking aerobatic lessons in, hit a tractor that tows aircraft... head on. The tractor ran out of fuel on the ramp, and between the sun & limited visibility, they clobbered it.

Other than that, I want a real back country tail dragger. I'm a bit jealous of friends who fly these Cub, Cub clones, and Aviat Huskys........with over sized tires. Between Utah & Idaho, there is a lot of cool backcountry strips. I wish I could have two airplanes. When these Cubs go with us on our 150 mile Sunday brunch, they leave about an hour early. They are definately slower than an RV.

L.Adamson --- RV6A
I would also like to have a bush plane someday. Really, I decided that I need at least three planes. The RV-6 for all-around fun, a bushplane I can also put floats on, and a 4+ seat fast family hauler. I don't think I can do three planes, but that what dreams are for right.
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Old 06-06-2010, 07:59 AM
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FWIW, in the latest Kitplanes Ron Wantaja has an article about homebuilt safety and compares tricycle RV's with td's. Turns out the td's have a slightly better safety record than trikes--opposite of what you would expect.
I don't have access to the magazine, but how did the author determine the ratio of trike to TD's among the RV's? In the case of the -8's, one can safely assume a large majority are TD's. I believe the opposite is the case with the side by sides. I would side with the insurance folks on this one, they are the only real authority, as they know exactly how many of each they insure.
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Old 06-20-2010, 06:21 AM
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I repainted a 7A for a guy recently who had flipped it due to nose gear collapse, he may have made some errors but for me I figured that after several years building my 6 to have it wrecked though something that wasn't my fault would be to much to handle ,some limitations but , so tailwheel it is and I have a few hours in one at the moment and i really love the challenge , I fly a mates one around now but can't wait to be in mine,
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Old 06-20-2010, 06:59 AM
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LAdamson, with all due respect, comparing the visibility when taxiing to a two seat Pitts is a huge stretch.

My RV8 has much better visibility than our C-180, and the 6 that I transitioned in was much like my 8.

It sounds like the poster has already decided, so we can leave him alone
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:36 AM
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My goodness, did everyone forget their training. When you land an airplane you pull the stick back and hold it back until the nose wheel settles itself down to the runway. You do not touch down on three wheels. Land at the proper speed and your not going to tear off the nose wheel. I watch some awful landings at my airport and wonder who taught them to land.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:41 AM
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WTT: RV-6 for RV-xA
Would like to trade my RV 6 for a 6A/7A /8A or a 9A

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Old 06-22-2010, 09:09 AM
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Default How to decide

O.K.

We've re-established that this is a never ending debate

A while ago I learned an interesting technique for deciding things that have no clear answer. Flip a coin. But wait...

The important thing is not what the result of the coin flip is, but rather your REACTION to the result. We've all flipped coins and a few times have had a twinge of disappointment at the outcome. THERE'S YOUR ANSWER! Acknowledge that after all the "analysis" it distills down to purely emotional and go with the emotion! After all, you can't really rationally justify what we do here anyway

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Old 06-22-2010, 09:40 AM
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My goodness, did everyone forget their training. When you land an airplane you pull the stick back and hold it back until the nose wheel settles itself down to the runway. You do not touch down on three wheels. Land at the proper speed and your not going to tear off the nose wheel. I watch some awful landings at my airport and wonder who taught them to land.
Thanks for reminding everyone how to land, but the fact remains that some have flipped on soft/uneven strips after the nose has settled on rollout with the stick ALREADY held fully aft. Obviously the controversy stems from the fact that some believe it's a design issue, and some believe it's solely a pilot technique issue. I think it's a little of both, and in extreme cases, nothing the pilot could have done to prevent going over.
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:12 PM
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Default RV6 vs RV6A

I went the other way, did not want the additional insurance hassle and training and I really liked the vision out of the 6A while taxying. Granted, the 6 looks more like a Mustang, but what the heck, it is only what others see. In the air it flies real nice! Incidentally, I still have all the original TW parts.

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Old 07-05-2010, 04:39 AM
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My first RV was a 6 that I recieved my tail wheel endorsement on. I put over 800 hours on it and here is what I tell people like yourself. It will take 100 landings for you to feel really comfortable in all conditions. At some time in that period,when you least expect it, a landing will come up to adjust your attitude. Tail wheels do make you pay attention at all times. When you do trade up to a nose wheel you will bring that training with you and never have a problem with landings and taxiing. That said:
1. Landings in severe crossinds become less of a challenge in a nosegear. Makes for more fun than stress.
2. Insurance is way cheaper in a nosegear (About $700 per year til you have at least 50-100 hours logged.)
3. A wellbuilt nosegear is faster than a mediocre taildragger. I cruise at 154 knots at 2350 rpm burning 7.7 gph.
4. Here's the big one: When you want to SELL the plane it will be way easier.

Woodman
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