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Old 05-05-2010, 08:17 PM
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You folks ought to take a look at SkyCharts Pro.
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Right now the app is about $20 with NO annual fee.
Per the FAQ on the skychart web site, you must pay $20 annually to keep downloading charts. Still quite reasonable.

For foreflight, the annual rate is $75 to skycharts $20. Frankly, compared to everything else in aviation, it is great to see both of these apps so reasonably priced. Even better that the ROI is so quickly realized. I never thought id be a paper saving tree hugger. At least I'm still filling the skies with lead and carbon monoxide.
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Old 05-06-2010, 10:13 PM
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So just some random points from using an iPad 3G today.

The Broadcom BCM4750UBG AGPS in the iPad 3G seems way quicker to pick up a fix than the Infineon Hammerhead II in the 3GS iPhone version.
I got a fix in seconds, usually getting the initial fix can take up to a minute (using the 3GS iPhone).
I DON'T have the 3G data plan enabled, the AGPS works anyway.

If you use SkyChartsPro, the easiest way to find out if you're getting a GPS fix or a wifi/cell tower fix is to look at the reported altitude.
If altitude is non zero, its most likely GPS.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...n_antenna.html

Could we get video of the gps in action?
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Old 05-11-2010, 06:48 PM
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I am a little slow, but the ipad is tempting.
If I read correctly, it seems that if one buys the 3g version it comes with a gps chip. The 3g version is not activated when you buy it and you dont need to activate(pay monthly fees)right? The gps chip will work and if you ever feel the need for 3g, just email to activate with carrier. The gps working seems like its well worth the minimal upgrade to the ipad no? Am I missing a part of the puzzle or would it be silly not to buy the 3g version if gps will work in plane and car?
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Old 05-11-2010, 07:15 PM
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I am a little slow, but the ipad is tempting.
If I read correctly, it seems that if one buys the 3g version it comes with a gps chip.
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The 3g version is not activated when you buy it and you dont need to activate(pay monthly fees)right?
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The gps chip will work and if you ever feel the need for 3g, just email to activate with carrier.
Right, except no e-mailing is necessary. You can sign up on the device and there is no commitment beyond one month. You can sign up for either data plan, as needed.

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The gps working seems like its well worth the minimal upgrade to the ipad no? Am I missing a part of the puzzle or would it be silly not to buy the 3g version if gps will work in plane and car?
That would be an individual decision. It is well worth it to me, although in my opinion there are significant issues with using the iPad in a canopied RV.

http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...278#post431278

I love it in the car because it is usually shaded in the car.
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:03 AM
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If you're willing to jailbreak your iPad, you can tether a bluetooth GPS to it and not even worry if the iPad can see the GPS sats at all with its organic GPS chip.

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=70978
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:13 AM
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FYI: If you are worried about the AGPS in the iPad, SkyChartsPro as of v1.8 has support for G-Fi:
http://www.g-fi.com/

And yes, that's a 'normal' GPS chip in it, no AGPS.
Reports have it though that the iPad is a lot better than the iPhone, but I have yet to try it myself.
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:12 AM
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I did a cross country trip yesterday and could not get GPS positioning. I was at 7000 feet with no Cellular service. On another trip I was at 3500 feet with some cell service and the GPS had me positioned on ForeFlights sectional just fine. On my Ipad we need some cellular coverage to get GPS. Bummer!
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:27 AM
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I did a cross country trip yesterday and could not get GPS positioning. I was at 7000 feet with no Cellular service. On another trip I was at 3500 feet with some cell service and the GPS had me positioned on ForeFlights sectional just fine. On my Ipad we need some cellular coverage to get GPS. Bummer!
Jeff,

My experience has been that a GPS application that needs to download data will not start up without coverage. Applications, like a GPS car navigator I have, that keep the data on the iPad, work fine.

Certainly a factor to watch for when evaluating applications.
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Old 05-12-2010, 12:18 PM
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The Ipad is certainly dazzling! Watching some of the videos on line showing its oepration had me panting.

Also, note that Google is rumored to be working with Verizon (much better coverage/network than ATT&T IMHO) on it's version of an Ipad. It'll hvae usb ports etc and probably based on the Android OS.

This year should be incredible for new devices!

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Larry. I had the sectional downloaded already. As well as the low enroute charts. Both of them geosync just fine when I have some kind of cellular signal. Your auto navigation would work just fine because you are on the ground with cell service..
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