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Old 04-19-2010, 03:13 PM
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Default Auto Fuel Transfer Tank

Fellas,
I want to acquire an autogas transfer tank for my truck in the near future. I want to be able to transport premium auto gas to my home (on an airpark) for use in my RV-6. I'm looking for advice/experience on a gasoline transfer tank setup for a pickup. Specifically, where can I find one in Idaho? What pump/filter setup do I need? Is anyone smart on the rules and regulations for safely transporting gasoline over Idaho or other state highways?

Thanks for any help you might have,
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Old 04-19-2010, 03:18 PM
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i bought a 30 gallon fuel cell from summit racing and installed an electric fuel pump, works great
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Old 04-19-2010, 03:37 PM
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Default Small Fuel Tank Regulations

Good summary of the regulations here:

http://www.transferflow.com/fuel_tank_regulations.html

Note that, in general, most pickup truck refueling tanks do not meet the regulatory requirements for direct aircraft refueling in terms of safety systems, grounding, bonding, etc.

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Old 04-19-2010, 10:26 PM
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Transfer Flow (transferflow.com) and ATI Tank (atitank.com) were the only two companies I found making tanks that were DOT-approved for gasoline when I looked into this a year or so ago. Somewhere, I have a copy of the DOT "special permits" for those two.
You can buy tanks at many places, but most are approved for diesel only. The gas-approved ones can get quite pricey. Let us know if you find any additional vendors!
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:24 AM
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You can buy tanks at many places, but most are approved for diesel only. The gas-approved ones can get quite pricey.
I wonder why a tank that is approved for diesel is not also approved for gas? Can someone explain this?
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:01 AM
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I wonder why a tank that is approved for diesel is not also approved for gas? Can someone explain this?
I am not an expert by any means but from my understanding of fuel, diesel is a harder fuel to ignite, it does not produce the same level of vapor that gasoline does. I believe the flash point for gasoline is much lower than diesel.

This is what my understanding of the differences are but I am sure there are others on here more knowledgeable than I am. Maybe they will chime in here.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:19 AM
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Steel drums are legal for transporting gasoline. It's often sold that way for transport to remote locations. I've seen blue drums of Chevron unleaded gasoline as deck cargo on small freighters. Racing Methanol is also sold by the drum.
You can get a nice clean drum for less than $50, make up a hose & valve assembly, a grounding wire and a drum cradle. Strap it in the back of your pickup truck. The whole thing will be high enough to gravitate to a low wing aircraft, so you won't need a pump. You won't have to remove it from the vehicle to fill either.
I've seem steel drums dropped from 8 to 10 feet at work. They do get egg shaped, but don't burst or leak.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:41 AM
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Default Filling the drum?

The steel drum is an idea, but I thought there were some legalities with filling it up, as well. Can you (legally) fill up a jerry-rigged steel drum in the back of your truck at the local gas station? Can you legally transport gasoline in a drum that has been opened and modified, or might it only be as sealed from the oil company? I'm just skeptical that it would be that easy to truly be legal.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:56 AM
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I built this rig about 10 years ago from an old diesel truck tank. I welded on a new "boss" cut from another tank. Works great.



Dual filters changed yearly. I've pumped over 5,000 gallons of fuel through this baby.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:58 AM
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The steel drum is an idea, but I thought there were some legalities with filling it up, as well. Can you (legally) fill up a jerry-rigged steel drum in the back of your truck at the local gas station? Can you legally transport gasoline in a drum that has been opened and modified, or might it only be as sealed from the oil company? I'm just skeptical that it would be that easy to truly be legal.
If the container once held fuel and was sold as such, it is legal to use again. usually the laws say you can't use things too fragile such as milk jugs or glass.
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