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Old 03-16-2010, 06:56 PM
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Default Advice Needed: scattering ashes from an RV-7 Tip-UP

Folks,

The father of a friend of mine passed away and his father's request was that his ashes be scattered over a local lake.

Is there a techique or advice on the best method to accoplish this request in an RV7, Tip-Up?

Thanks for your thoughts.....
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:29 PM
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Default Please accept my advice with the utmost respect...

The probability of a proper, respectul dispersion is not great. Read the attached link. If over inland waters, compliance with the Clean Air Act is required and a permit is required. Offshore beyond three miles is ok. There is a great probability you will return with ash on your body, in your aircraft, or stuck to the outboard skin by either oil present or electrical static charge. If it was a recent funeral, emotions are still high and anything but success would possibly trigger a bad reaction or bad memory.

http://www.flyingmag.com/scattering-ashes?page=0,2

It seems more appropriate to use a boat in this case if at all possible. And, of course there are professional services available for a couple hundred dollars.

With deepest sympathy,

Sincerely,
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:46 PM
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I don't see this working in a tip-up or slider. Rent a C-150 and have a few RV's flying West in formation with you. Sorry for your loss.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:06 PM
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I agree with Reiley, do it from a rented Cessna. I just don't see this working well from the RV.

Regarding the method: I read somewhere about using a piece of pipe and a funnel. Crack the door of the plane so that you can extend the pipe (PVC ought to work) out into the airstream. The end of the pipe in the airstream will create a vacuum to suck the ashes through the pipe. Use the funnel...well, as a funnel.

Good on you for trying help honor your buddy's fathers wishes.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:08 PM
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I have a friend who used to do the "burial at sea" thing but used his T6 or Stearman, depending on the wishes of the deceased.

The above post is correct; you and your plane will be wearing most of the ashes.

My friend's solution was to put the ashes in a plain brown paper bag and staple it shut. Three miles off shore he would (respectfully) pitch the bag over the side, note the lat and long and head back to shore.

If a family member wanted he would take one of them with him and let them have the honors.

With our planes, it is really not possible to get the ashes overboard unless you rig some type of bomb rack. (Search on this topic, it has been discussed in deal before.) Your best bet is to rent a boat or a Cessna.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:30 PM
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Thanks Folks, the article was very helpful! I appreciate the responses and concerns.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:36 PM
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Default Ice Pilots

If you want a good laugh and some great aviation shows, google ICE PILOTS they did a whole series this year on the buffalo air boys way up in northern Canada flying old planes from the 40s and 50s today. Last episode (all available on line) was one for a guy thats dad was an old dc mechanic and wished to have his ashes scattered. Its a great great clip if you dont mind some cowboys getting the job done. Funny stuff.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:59 PM
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Default I've done scatter hops

I've done air burrials before in c172's. My long-ago-boss at the flight school I taught at, had a rig purpose built specifically for the task.

The chute was essentially a hopper attached to a long, bent 6 inch diameter pipe sticking into the airstream that had to be hung on an open window on the 172. It still tended to clog if too many ashes were poured into the hopper at once.

The whole operation wasn't that easy, and the tendency to have ashes cyclone around the cockpit was high with improper technique. No ashes usually were stuck to the airplane.

All that being said-- there aren't any real similarities between the 7 tipup and a 172. A special rig can be made. If you built your airplane, you can certainly build a scattering rig, but you'd be better off using a high wing rental with an opening window.
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:20 PM
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Best bet is a purpose-built canister device mounted well out in the airstream. Respectful, reliable, neat.

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Old 03-17-2010, 12:07 AM
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Default Purpose built...

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Best bet is a purpose-built canister device mounted well out in the airstream. Respectful, reliable, neat.
I saw this some time ago and replicated the device for use on my 8. I mounted it between the wheel fairing and the gear leg. Some PVC tubing, hinges, a spring, and a pull cable release. I fished the release cable through the vent opening. No mods to the airplane. As Dan said, respectful, reliable, and neat. The friend that I scattered was a very creative homebuilder and I'm sure would have approved of the device.

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