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03-13-2010, 10:17 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Paradise,Pa S37
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Hi Mitch
Ed took my cylinders off first week in Jan and last time I checked in with ECI I am looking at beginning of April before I get mine back
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03-13-2010, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sonoma County
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Originally Posted by KirkGrovesRV8
Hi Mitch
Ed took my cylinders off first week in Jan and last time I checked in with ECI I am looking at beginning of April before I get mine back
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For a job that can be done in a day or two, why would ECI want to store your cylinders for over THREE MONTHS!!!  You would think that they would have a better plan.............. Like exchange. Or give you a date to ship yours in, to reduce your down time.
Everything I have ever purchased from ECI has been recalled. And this will be the third set of jugs for this motor...........
When I talked to ECI last year at OSHKOSH, they said, go ahead and run em 350? hours and then send them in for a pro-rated exchange on the improved cyl's. And they would also pay a labor amount for R+R. They also said that I could purchase the new cyl's and they would send them right out. Do the exchange and send in my cyl's for credit to reduce down time.
Sure sounded good then. I will see what they have to say this year, if they have a booth at OSHKOSH. I still have his business card.....
I will say this about ECI, My comps have always been over 77 and oil consumption is less than one quart in 30 hours.
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03-13-2010, 08:24 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: East Columbia Texas 77486
Posts: 93
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ECI
I hand delivered my cylinders on 2/17/10 to ECI in San Antonio. They wanted me to fly my plane until I had 350 hrs. but I couldn't see myself flying with something that might be bad. After seeing their warehouse full of returned cylinders stacked everywhere I could see why they wanted me to wait. ECI thought the cylinders would be coming in gradually to be rebuilt but it appears that many others felt like I did. They also told me the turnaround should be 7 weeks but I think that is optimistic. I still believe ECI is doing the best they can in a bad situation.
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03-14-2010, 10:29 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22
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Cylinder Backlog
I spoke with ECi a week ago, in prep for sending in my cylinders. They said that they were still setting up their rework assembly line, and that they hadn't yet started working on any of the returned cylinders. That would explain the warehouse full of cylinders. There was no specific word on how long it would take to clear that backlog, but I would expect it would take some time.
Another item of interest: They are preparing an engine test bed, so that they can run endurance tests on their rework process. This test is part of their submission to the FAA to accept their proposed "Alternate Means of Compliance". I suspect it will be quite some time before the AMOC is formally authorized, but when (if?) it is there will probably be a lot of cylinders sent in.
I want to get my cylinders worked before that onslought creates an even bigger backlog.
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03-14-2010, 10:44 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Windsor Colorado
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ECI update
We are coming up on 2 months since I sent my "B" cylinder in...Promises of shipping dates etc made and broken....Status of reworked or new replacement unclear....What is clear, there is no standard customer oriented program in place to facilitate an orderly replacement of your cylinders... 
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03-14-2010, 11:17 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evansville, Indiana
Posts: 661
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Originally Posted by Turbowind
We are coming up on 2 months since I sent my "B" cylinder in...Promises of shipping dates etc made and broken....Status of reworked or new replacement unclear....What is clear, there is no standard customer oriented program in place to facilitate an orderly replacement of your cylinders... 
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I had them send me a new cylinder and put it on my credit card. Had it in a week and a half. Returned my Group B cylinder, after installing the new one, and got a full credit on my card. Simple with no hassle. Plane was down for less than a week.
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03-14-2010, 11:34 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sonoma County
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Originally Posted by newtech
I had them send me a new cylinder and put it on my credit card. Had it in a week and a half. Returned my Group B cylinder, after installing the new one, and got a full credit on my card. Simple with no hassle. Plane was down for less than a week.
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Steve, When did this happen? That was ECI"S plan at the start, but I don't think that they are doing that any more.
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03-14-2010, 12:50 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Paradise,Pa S37
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Originally Posted by gasman
Steve, When did this happen? That was ECI"S plan at the start, but I don't think that they are doing that any more.
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You are right, ECI is now treating group B cylinders in the same way group A cylinders are. A good buddy of mine had 2 group Bs one group A and one unaffected and they gave him 4 new cylinders for 485$ He was lucky and acted quick, now he would be in the same boat as me waiting.
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03-14-2010, 04:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Salem, OR
Posts: 296
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First, JB at ECI has a tough job being the front man for this problem. Would not want that job.
The last update he gave me was about three weeks ago. At that time, they had just received FAA approval for the rework process, but no work on any cylinders had been done. He said then that it would be at least another 6 to 8 weeks for my four Group A cylinders (352 hours on them when removed) which were delivered to ECI on 12/29/09.
I hope they pick up the pace. We'll see.
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03-14-2010, 08:13 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evansville, Indiana
Posts: 661
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Originally Posted by gasman
Steve, When did this happen? That was ECI"S plan at the start, but I don't think that they are doing that any more.
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I applied for my RMA # January 4th, right after the SB came out. My engine only had 70 hours on it at the time and they gave me a new cylinder under the warranty. I went ahead and prepaid the new cylinder so I could get the replacement in my hands as soon as possible and to minimize the down time. I have since returned the cylinder I removed and my credit card has been credited with the full purchase price of the cylinder.
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3EV - Evansville, IN
Where is Steve and the Sky Terrier?
RV-7A Slider, O-360 A1A, Catto 3 blade, 2 screen Garmin G3X Classic, GTN 650, Bionics APRS. FLYING since June 24, 2009
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